"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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not gettin a kiss after the 1st date

guayaballer

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if u dunt get a kiss on da 1st date doesnt dat mean u failed? because u showed her ur value and everything and it still wasnt enoughso wouldnt dat mean she would say no to a second date?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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DJ_Trainee_10

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I don't think it means you failed and I don't think it means there is no second date.

Don't dwell on the kiss, rather, dwell on the second date and if its going to happen.

I say if she doesn't kiss you on the second date then it shouldn't be as bad because she did come on a second date, and that means she shows some interest in you.
 

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If you shoot a basketball and miss then youre a terrible basketball player??
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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oakraiderz2

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Originally posted by MightyMate
Only slut gives kiss on 1st date.
There's a fallicy in your arguement. Dont be so quick to generalize...either way, whats your point?
 

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never aim for getting a kiss on a first date unless the girl is named something something Hilton or Spears, actually screw it bring a condom in that case :D
 

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She did not kiss you so you are woryed she does not like you! Yet you are the man, you are suposed to initiate the kiss. She is probably 10 times more woried that you do not like her!
 

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Originally posted by MightyMate
Only slut gives kiss on 1st date.
I dont think so... It all depends on the amount of attraction you create on her.
I really dont want to brag, but when i first read the 10 Bridges of relationship by DeAngelo, i got "obssesed" with it so i used it right away on a date. The girl was HB9, 18 years old (i was 16), virgin, shy, etc.
She ended up on my room getting "de-virginized".
I was her 1st bf and i know for sure that i was last one, too.

I ussually dont call that girl again if i dont kiss her on a 1st date. I call it failure on creating attraction :)D thanx God this is not happening anymore)
Anyway sometimes there are girls that are worth of calling 'em again, but only in times when u r lookin for a LTR girl (DONT).
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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MetalFortress

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Originally posted by MightyMate
And what is Your point? Go cry to Your mummy kid. You must be either retarded or dumb as hell if You dont understand what im writing.
Of course I understand it, but it's still horrid, as is almost every single point you make. Stop trolling.
 

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If You wanna LTR with girls who kiss on first date - free way. You wanna divorce alot yeah? Anyways You are young so You dont know what You are speaking about. You are just horny now and know nothing.
 

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No worries, as long as you were kinda into kino/being sexual/manly. If you were just talking and no kino or anything and that's why it didn't escalate to a kiss, try again, then give it a next for best results.

And you don't "get" a kiss, you initiate it, BE A MAN! :D

Kissing isn't everything, though.
:woo:
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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