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You meet a girl who’s 21.

She asked me to be official. She chased me and pursued me the entire relationship.

I decided to hop on a steroid cycle about a month into dating. Crashed my sex drive, had 3 **** performances in the bedroom over a one week period. I freaked out. Felt like she lost atttaction to me.

Let me be clear without being ****y, i led the way and held frame the whole relationship. When the sex got bad i felt her drifting.

I started becoming uptight and trying to force the sex with her. We no longer joked around as much. I owned up to what I did, she’s still talking to me but quite frankly I’m not in the mood to chase her because I didn’t have to in order to get her in the first place so why bother? I got her without trying.

yeah I’m not stupid. I know this chick is fresh 21, a woman 26-27 would be more understanding and understand a guy has bad days but my ego has taken a big hit here. All over steroids lol

This is the only girl I actually committed to in a while and saw a future with And she was on board with it. Her friends used to tell me she wouldn’t shut the **** up about me she told her parents she wanted a life and kids with me. And I lost her over the most embarrassing reason possible, not delivering it in the sack consistently. I don’t think this chick was going anywhere when the sex was good.

I’m not in the mood to game multiple women again and return to the field. I’m burnt out. Im almost 30 my looks are still there but my player days are behind me I just don’t have the patience to play the game anymore. Getting a hot 21 year old to commit is hard enough I did it but told myself while it was happening “this is the last time”

well...****.
 
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Again. Your steroid cycle isn't to blame for crashing your sex drive. You not treating it seriously, using the proper supports and understanding how to balance your hormones and protect yourself from these unwanted side effects is.

Steroids are not like popping tic tacs. They are serious business and need to be treated as such. Meaning you need to understand 100% of what is going on, how it effects your body and how to protect yourself from them.

Not using estrogen support with aromatizing steroids?? Are you kidding me? That is amateur hour at the Apollo kind of stuff. What's your estradiol at? Do you even know? And if you don't why don't you? Do you realize you are at a very elevated risk for stroke, blood clots and serious cardiovascular issues with unchecked estradiol?

I suggest you start taking this a lot more seriously before your next cycle because ED might be the least of your problems if you choose not to.

Not trying to be a d!ck but you need a wake up call.
 
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Whats the problem? Maybe she doesn't do it for you. Could be her politics. Christ if I had to listen to the current batch of idiots go on about modern politics, I think my **** would be in a permanent coma.
 

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Whats the problem? Maybe she doesn't do it for you. Could be her politics. Christ if I had to listen to the current batch of idiots go on about modern politics, I think my **** would be in a permanent coma.
He just told you what the problem was. ED from steroid use.
 

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Let me be clear without being ****y, i led the way and held frame the whole relationship.
I freaked out. Felt like she lost atttaction to me.
Only one of the above statements is accurate. Not both. With all due respect, you are not fooling anyone.

To truly improve/grow, you have to be willing to be honest with yourself. The more honest you can be with yourself, the greater the potential you actually have to improve.
 

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Only one of the above statements is accurate. Not both. With all due respect, you are not fooling anyone.

To truly improve/grow, you have to be willing to be honest with yourself. The more honest you can be with yourself, the greater the potential you actually have to improve.
I’m not posting that to be unkind. I am questioning whether right now you are just looking for surface level responses simply so your ego can feel vindicated?

Are you ready to consider the previous relationships you have posted on SS about as well? What they have in common? If you are truly looking for true LTR success, with a woman, more will be required of you than some surface level adjustments. I say that because I believe you truly wish to be happy. Only you know. Offering to you as well intentioned food for thought.
 

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Did the doc say that or is it implied? I have to use steroids for a genetic problem and I don't have the same takedowns.
Anabolic steroids or corticosteroids? You aren't taking them at levels that would cause those issues.

You would be taking them at levels that would replace what your body produces. Steroid use by bodybuilders gives them 5-10 or more times what a normal person would have in their system as well as unnatural steroids the body doesn't produce. ED from them is a well known side. There is even a term coined called "Deca D!ck" due to the frequency of ED using that particular steroid causes. The degree it causes this depends on the type of steroid and what hormone it is derived from.

One that can be managed when using proper supports and understanding how they effect the body.
 

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Anabolic steroids or corticosteroids? You aren't taking them at levels that would cause those issues.

You would be taking them at levels that would replace what your body produces. Steroid use by bodybuilders gives them 5-10 or more times what a normal person would have in their system as well as unnatural steroids the body doesn't produce. ED from them is a well known side. There is even a term coined called "Deca D!ck" due to the frequency of ED using that particular steroid causes. The degree it causes this depends on the type of steroid and what hormone it is derived from.

One that can be managed when using proper supports and understanding how they effect the body.
Your right It could of been performance anxiety. When I got on the **** I did have it in the back of my mind I won’t perform as well. She used to come over and it would just happen naturally. Amazing sex. 2-3 bad performances and I was done and couldn’t recover. It was becoming a chore for her instead of a natural list like in the beginning.
 

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Only one of the above statements is accurate. Not both. With all due respect, you are not fooling anyone.

To truly improve/grow, you have to be willing to be honest with yourself. The more honest you can be with yourself, the greater the potential you actually have to improve.
I see what your saying brother. But man to man, this is embarrassing enough admitting to ED why would I lie about something less embarrassing like my frame? I just was myself with her and had the attitude take it or leave it. She liked me and fell in love. She drove 45 minutes to see me almost every day I never even came to her. I never called her or texted her first. It was effortless. We used to laugh and have a blast together.

When I started worrying about the performance in the sack I panicked and lost my frame. it was on my mind constantly, I got uptight and the whole vibe changed. She stopped coming over as much etc.i feel like she picked up on it and lost attraction.
 

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I’m not posting that to be unkind. I am questioning whether right now you are just looking for surface level responses simply so your ego can feel vindicated?

Are you ready to consider the previous relationships you have posted on SS about as well? What they have in common? If you are truly looking for true LTR success, with a woman, more will be required of you than some surface level adjustments. I say that because I believe you truly wish to be happy. Only you know. Offering to you as well intentioned food for thought.
This Was the chick Man. I think I’ve been with 60-70 women, some amazing ones but she was the one. if you said I could take sex with a 10 every day of the week and be single or only date her i would only chose her.
 

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Your right It could of been performance anxiety.
If you still wake up with morning wood then it's psychological and most likely your performance anxiety.
If you no longer wake up with morning wood, it's biological.

Have you tried any ED meds(Viagra or Ciallis)?
 

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If you still wake up with morning wood then it's psychological and most likely your performance anxiety.
If you no longer wake up with morning wood, it's biological.

Have you tried any ED meds(Viagra or Ciallis)?
Was still waking up with Morningwood
 

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Get her in the bed naked, and make sure the lights are off. The room has to be really dark. Make her get doggy style at the edge of the bed.... then tag me in, and I'll come out of the closet and lay the D on her for you. We can do this 3 times a week

Now let me be clear... I don't want to do this AT ALL. In fact, just the thought of it disgusts me.... but, this is a hot 21 year old who doesn't give you head. I don't want you to lose out on that. You'll never come across such a high quality woman again in your life. We need to do whatever it takes to secure this situation for you
 

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Get her in the bed naked, and make sure the lights are off. The room has to be really dark. Make her get doggy style at the edge of the bed.... then tag me in, and I'll come out of the closet and lay the D on her for you. We can do this 3 times a week

Now let me be clear... I don't want to do this AT ALL. In fact, just the thought of it disgusts me.... but, this is a hot 21 year old who doesn't give you head. I don't want you to lose out on that. You'll never come across such a high quality woman again in your life. We need to do whatever it takes to secure this situation for you
yes! This was exactly our sex life. Pretty much this is how I felt she viewed sex

“im a hot 21 year old you should get hard at the mere sight of me with no help and stay rock hard for two hours. I won’t ever give you head to help you because why should I? A million men would love to **** me. But if you *** early or don’t make me orgasm I’m going to be pissed and let you know it”

the nights where I put on a marathon she would be lovey dovey and affectionate for a few days. When I didn’t, she would punish me by telling me you need to think about what your doing and act very cold. “I don’t want this type of sex life with you” is what she said one time

the first month I was able to satisfy her. But once the novelty wore off I just couldn’t get hard on command anymore. She said she was sexually frustrated once I stopped delivering. She used to tell me that I would give her a look sometimes that looked like I hated her.

After the bad week in bed I was eager to redeem myself. There were times when I would start kissing her and was hard ready to go and she wouldn’t touch me. Told me we should go to the doctor (all because I couldn’t get hard 3 times)
 
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yes! This was exactly our sex life. Pretty much this is how I felt she viewed sex

“im a hot 21 year old you should get hard at the mere sight of me with no help and stay rock hard for two hours. I won’t ever give you head to help you because why should I? A million men would love to **** me. But if you *** early or don’t make me orgasm I’m going to be pissed and let you know it”

the nights where I put on a marathon she would be lovey dovey and affectionate for a few days. When I didn’t, she would punish me by telling me you need to think about what your doing and act very cold. “I don’t want this type of sex life with you” is what she said one time

the first month I was able to satisfy her. But once the novelty wore off I just couldn’t get hard on command anymore. She said she was sexually frustrated once I stopped delivering. She used to tell me that I would give her a look sometimes that looked like I hated her.

After the bad week in bed I was eager to redeem myself. There were times when I would start kissing her and was hard ready to go and she wouldn’t touch me. Told me we should go to the doctor (all because I couldn’t get hard 3 times)
Why do you want to be with a girl like this?

Sounds like a total b1tch to me. It sounds like you two aren't sexually compatible and sex is clearly important to both of you.

Time to move on. No man should put up with disrespect or selfish b1tches like that.

If you stick with her and not walk away, you only have yourself to blame.
 

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Why do you want to be with a girl like this?

Sounds like a total b1tch to me. It sounds like you two aren't sexually compatible and sex is clearly important to both of you.

Time to move on. No man should put up with disrespect or selfish b1tches like that.

If you stick with her and not walk away, you only have yourself to blame.
I mean I figured she’s young and I can mold her in bed. Not like we didn’t ever have great sex but was she my type physically? Beautiful yes. But I had always gone for thicker taller curvy women and she was skinny...maybe that had something to do with it not sure. What’s killing me is having a chick that used to come over just to **** me. To her legitimately not being sexually attracted to me I’ll because I couldn’t get hard a couple times I just felt like it was a little bit harsh And she could’ve tried doing some things in bed she didn’t want to just to save the relationship and get back to where we were but she couldn’t get her self to do it
 

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Captain, I dont wish to judge you for using juice. Are you however not worried about the health implications of that usage in the long term? Can you not attain the physique you have now naturally through sheer grinding?

Im just concerned that you may be endangering your health needlessly without considering the bigger picture
 
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