"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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North American girls still have no respect for men

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We may be able to game better because of the stuff we learn from this site but the girls here still have no respect for men and have too many guys to choose from. The girl I met off POF gets mad when im on POF but today I see her on POF again, ludakris.

I'm going to Brazil, don't want these chicks.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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You might be right. But you're also a bit of a whiner, which is a byproduct of your lack of a success with women.

So I don't think that your experience with women is relative to ALL men's experience with women.

Basically, what I'm saying is I get along with North American women just fine. Some suck. Some are cool. And thats just how it is.
 

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gspshields2 said:
We may be able to game better because of the stuff we learn from this site but the girls here still have no respect for men and have too many guys to choose from. The girl I met off POF gets mad when im on POF but today I see her on POF again, ludakris.

I'm going to Brazil, don't want these chicks.

LMFAO! I TOLD you NUMEROUS times THEY play games. You IGNORE them and play them back without letting on.

Good god what're you in love already? Butthurt over a chick you met from online 'dating' ONCE?

Should chicks expect you to drop everything after one meet and declare you are the 'one'? You'd run for the hills claiming: "Stage 5 clinger!"

You can barely handle dealing with chicks ONLINE. What are you going to do in real life? You expect to meet someone and throw a burka over them and lock them in a cage in your basement to be your obedient slave? Hahahahaha

GSP stop being a mincing little nancy boy, give yourself a S.T.F.Uppercut and get over yourself.
 

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LMFAO! I TOLD you NUMEROUS times THEY play games. You IGNORE them and play them back without letting on.

Good god what're you in love already? Butthurt over a chick you met from online 'dating' ONCE?

Should chicks expect you to drop everything after one meet and declare you are the 'one'? You'd run for the hills claiming: "Stage 5 clinger!"

You can barely handle dealing with chicks ONLINE. What are you going to do in real life? You expect to meet someone and throw a burka over them and lock them in a cage in your basement to be your obedient slave? Hahahahaha

GSP stop being a mincing little nancy boy, give yourself a S.T.F.Uppercut and get over yourself.

Thank you.

And just imagine all the time you've spent helping this guy.
 

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Thank you.

And just imagine all the time you've spent helping this guy.

Ok maybe I'm overreacting a little bit, I will continue to play the "game".

But I still hate the "game" why is no such thing as game overseas?
The chicks there really don't act like this.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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OK, I will stop whining and I will keep trying and report my failures/success here

I'm also going to start talking to Brazilian chicks too, hey
its another option.

Gonna spam the fu*k out of that site tonight, I don't care,
more options, if they like me then good, if not then fu*k
I dont care
 

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Mantis Toboggan said:
You might be right. But you're also a bit of a whiner, which is a byproduct of your lack of a success with women.

So I don't think that your experience with women is relative to ALL men's experience with women.

Basically, what I'm saying is I get along with North American women just fine. Some suck. Some are cool. And thats just how it is.

Sorry about whining, I will stop whining and suck it up. But to be honest I haven't met any cool girls just b1tches. This Ukrainian chick I went out with was telling me how this guy who kept texting her "good morning" everyday and never even met her was a "chump". That's a good way to think of men, as chumps.
 

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gspshields2 said:
Ok maybe I'm overreacting a little bit, I will continue to play the "game".

But I still hate the "game" why is no such thing as game overseas?
The chicks there really don't act like this.
No everyone overseas is happy all the time about everything. And nothing bad happens.

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Sorry about whining, I will stop whining and suck it up. But to be honest I haven't met any cool girls just b1tches. This Ukrainian chick I went out with was telling me how this guy who kept texting her "good morning" everyday and never even met her was a "chump". That's a good way to think of men, as chumps.
Some women are a**holes. The alternative is to settle down and marry the first semi-nice girl you meet. You wanna do that? Marry some nice 6.5 or 7 because dating is too risky?

Nope. Me neither.

You'll be fine.
 

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No everyone overseas is happy all the time about everything. And nothing bad happens.



Some women are a**holes. The alternative is to settle down and marry the first semi-nice girl you meet. You wanna do that? Marry some nice 6.5 or 7 because dating is too risky?

Nope. Me neither.

You'll be fine.

I wouldn't mind if I could actually find some nice 6.5 or 7 who is nice, but I haven't met one in my entire life (well I did when I was overseas for only a week, I met several). Not in North America ever and in one week overseas I met a really nice girl actually.

Ukrainian b1tch says: One time this guy I dated, he refused to buy me something I wanted on a date, I didn't talk to him the whole time, then later on, he bought it for me, I said I didn't want it anymore. I never saw that loser again.
 

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OK, I will stop whining and I will keep trying and report my failures/success here

I'm also going to start talking to Brazilian chicks too, hey
its another option.

Gonna spam the fu*k out of that site tonight, I don't care,
more options, if they like me then good, if not then fu*k
I dont care
To be honest it doesn't matter if you spam the fvck out of that site, get the number and meet every chick you've spammed. You are STILL going to see every one of them online. Deal with it.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I know that Winston Wu from happierabroad is being mocked here on sosuave, but he has some interesting points:

I have three GOOD NEWS for you: 1) The problem is NOT you. 2) You are not crazy. 3) There is a REAL SOLUTION to it all - and it's simple, natural and BS free!

If we are not successful with women, its our fault basically. thats what North American culture has shoved down our throats.

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Now im not saying that he isn;t a loser. He clearly is a loser, but he has some valid points as well.

I have not given up on dating in North America,

But definately this is my last attempt, for the next 2 months I will try my hardest and suck it up and stop complaining and see where that gets me. If I get no results then at least I tried.
 

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I haven't been abroad so I have nothing to compare it to but come on guys, whining? Really? We're gonna act like what he says holds no weight?

I know a lot of the time things are taught here with the idea that what the individual man is doing is wrong, and he has to correct it.

She didn't text back? You're not muscular enough

She flaked on you? You're not interesting enough

She wants to see other people? You don't **** her good enough

Maybe we can look at this from both sides and say sometimes it's not lack of game on our parts but that some women are just terrible human beings who play mind games just because they can? The fact that no matter how tight your game is or how tight you think it is, attention *****s, liars, cheaters, ice queens, princesses will always exist?

Some women just suck. Now, maybe OP is looking in the wrong place, because there are cool girls out there that exist. But I'd hardly call what he's doing whining. He's stating something that I'm sure most of us feel at one point or another.
 

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MisterD said:
Maybe we can look at this from both sides and say sometimes it's not lack of game on our parts but that some women are just terrible human beings who play mind games just because they can? The fact that no matter how tight your game is or how tight you think it is, attention *****s, liars, cheaters, ice queens, princesses will always exist?
Yes these liars, cheaters, ice queens, princesses will always exist, I don't have a problem with that, but when the majority of girls are like this, it becomes a problem. More than a majority, I would say all of them to be exact.
This type of mentality does not exist in other parts of the world.

I still have a chick from overseas I talk to and she is very polite to me everyday.
 

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It's increasingly hard to find women because of their limitless options. I see average to above average looking men dating much lesser counterparts. Attractive (7-10) women have a plethora of options at their disposal at any time. This is fact, not opinion. What do you have to do to crack the top three of her lineup? That all depends on the chick. Applying a single mold to any group of persons, especially women, will lead us to believe that we are inferior when "game" doesn't pay the dividends we expect. The most crucial aspect of game I have learned is to become adaptable. learn what works best for a specific type of woman. If you still don't succeed, face the facts that she just simply thinks she can do better or is already doing better than you. Don't hold it against her. You are a human being just like her and given the opportunity between her and Kate Upton, you'd choose Kate Upton.

All you can do is swing the bat. I guarantee there are women who are just as, if not more so, ruthless in Brazil than here in the States. Especially when sarging on the internet. A woman behind a computer is far more empowered than a woman in public.
 

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gspshields2 said:
I know that Winston Wu from happierabroad is being mocked here on sosuave, but he has some interesting points:

I have three GOOD NEWS for you: 1) The problem is NOT you. 2) You are not crazy. 3) There is a REAL SOLUTION to it all - and it's simple, natural and BS free!

If we are not successful with women, its our fault basically. thats what North American culture has shoved down our throats.

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Now im not saying that he isn;t a loser. He clearly is a loser, but he has
some valid points as well.
I don't see any valid points there, really. I don't think moving abroad is a necessity to find a woman. If your goal in life is to be a world traveler, then go ahead and travel. If your goal is to move abroad just because you suck at dating in America, then you have bigger problems.

The majority of my friends are in relationships. Some engaged, others not. The friends who AREN'T in relationships get girls occasionally. Not as often as me, but they're not considering moving to get more girls. Point is - there are PLENTY of men in America who get women. Plenty.

The problem with you isn't America. It's you. I'm not trying to insult you, man, but you ooze negativity. I can just tell you're not the kind of guy who's positive...who's the life of the party...the kind of guy with an active social life.

It just feels like you're acting as if the world owes you something. I go on a bad date, and I say "Well, that was an experience." You go on bad dates and you say, "Women are crazy! Especially the American ones! I hope this crazy girl isn't a stalker! Why don't popular, hot girls like me?!"

This thing....this finding the right woman thing....is a process. It might take 2 months. Might take 2 years. Stop acting as if you're entitled a certain type of woman in a certain amount of time. Things happen at their own pace.

And yeah, I think entitlement is the right word. While I'm out here working for what I get, you're getting moody and weird about it. There's nothing I hate more than someone who expects good things to happen without getting their hands dirty.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Iceberg said:
There's nothing I hate more than someone who expects good things to happen without getting their hands dirty.
You hate all women?
 

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:down: The pof chicks are the worst, it amazes me how effortlessely Ninja got me numbers and some chicks even got mad when I didn't respond back

Needless to say my pic got flagged cause it was considered "inapporitate"
 

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Some women just suck. Now, maybe OP is looking in the wrong place, because there are cool girls out there that exist. But I'd hardly call what he's doing whining. He's stating something that I'm sure most of us feel at one point or another.
The thing is man, I NEVER felt that way. Even at my worst, I never felt that way. When dealing with awful girls, I'd say "That girl is a prick." I wouldnt blame all of womankind. I wouldnt' pack up and move.

Some people look at a problem and complain about the fact that problems exist. Other people look at problems and find ways to solve it. I feel that a lot of guys here are the former and not the latter.

When I sucked with women, I looked at guys who were good with women. I'd see how they talked to girls, how they dressed, how they acted, where they hung out. I looked in the mirror and determined what I needed to change to become better socially and with women....what Gpshields seems to be doing is looking at women and determining what THEY need to change to adapt to him.

I see guys who are cool, attractive, fun, positive, and outgoing and they get girls. So I could either say, "Boo hoo. Girls only like fun, cool, attractive guys. Not me." Or I could become a cool, fun, positive guy.

There will always be bad women. As you get better with women, you get better quality women. I've gone on a sh!t ton more dates than Gpshields and I've never had the sh!tty responses he's had on this handful of dates. So he's attracting crappy women....His fault. Look in the mirror and figure out what to change. Or...blame everyone in the world, BESIDES yourself.


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You hate all women?
No. Just men like you who suck at women and therefor declare that women suck.

It's like if you were bad at baseball, instead of getting better, you're determined to ruin it for everyone else.
 

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I don't see any valid points there, really. I don't think moving abroad is a necessity to find a woman. If your goal in life is to be a world traveler, then go ahead and travel. If your goal is to move abroad just because you suck at dating in America, then you have bigger problems.
Says who? Says you? ha ha ha! Have you even tried going abroad?

You've got to have money to travel, meet chicks abroad, and you have to have a good job or serious money to sponser them to come back to your home contry. Over 94% of people into that are white successful guys that don't want to limit their options to America alone. Some people are yonger guys just going to travel abroad have fun meeting women and are happy go lucky if they find their soul-mate there.

It is an issue of why have life harder for yourself for what? Because you are worried someone will call you a loser? Seems more like a fifth column contingent here for the femi-nazi when shaming in calling guys losers who go to other countries to meet chicks.

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The majority of my friends are in relationships. Some engaged, others not. The friends who AREN'T in relationships get girls occasionally. Not as often as me, but they're not considering moving to get more girls. Point is - there are PLENTY of men in America who get women. Plenty.
Good for them. But what are the details of these relationships? Are they all sexy women that you would find in Ukraine, or other parts of the world, or are they fat, and ugly entitlement queens that have their partner under a ball and chain and have profiles on POF. Did they just settle with the first girl that was nice with them?

Your other friends get girls occasionally? What type of girls? How much game/work do they have to put on to get them? With a divorce rate over 50% and most of it initiated by women, it doesn't mean anything. The divorce rate with foreign women is more around 20% by statistics.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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