"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Noob question, how do I know is she has a boyfriend?

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First of all as I said before shyness is not a problem to me, quite the opposite ,the point is that she works in the gym where I train so I cannot screw up things.

I looked for rings and stuff on her hands and found only one on her middle finger (love rings are usually on other fingers for what I recall), she is always nice and smiling to me but still cant tell if its cause she likes me or simply customer service.

Any idea about how to act? If it was for me I would go straigh and ask her out but as I said I train in that gym and I like it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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As in a post a few back (cause guys should FIRST look if there's a similar post and read THAT before post a new one about the same subject)

If she is interested in you she doesn't have a boyfriend, if she is not, well she definately have one! Hope you get the meaning! :)
 

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It's a noob question, because it shouldn't matter. Well, of course it matters, but hear me out....

Your goal is to get her out of her work environment and one-on-one with you at a bar (or something social). So, when you ask for her number, or when you ask her out, you'll find out about her boyfriend situation.

You cannot go around trying to date women and be afraid of the rejection that comes with "I have a boyfriend."

That's like trying to be a champion swimmer, but being too afraid to dip your feet in the water to find out if it's cold.
 

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DonJuanit0 said:
As in a post a few back (cause guys should FIRST look if there's a similar post and read THAT before post a new one about the same subject)

If she is interested in you she doesn't have a boyfriend, if she is not, well she definately have one! Hope you get the meaning! :)
not true. I once flirted like crazy with this chick and judging by her show of interest I assumed she was single. only to found out later that she had a bf, which was also our mutual friend. how about that!
 
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That's like trying to be a champion swimmer, but being too afraid to dip your feet in the water to find out if it's cold.
I would hope a championship swimming would swim even if the water was cold.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Fela Kuti said:
not true. I once flirted like crazy with this chick and judging by her show of interest I assumed she was single. only to found out later that she had a bf, which was also our mutual friend. how about that!
You didn't read the signs well?!? She was a wh*re so you don't neet to pay attention to her anyway just f*ck her if she is really interested? Again, if she has a bf and is really interested in you she will either cheat or break up! Orelse she is just satisfing her ego with you! how about that?!? :p
 

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Fela Kuti said:
not true. I once flirted like crazy with this chick and judging by her show of interest I assumed she was single. only to found out later that she had a bf, which was also our mutual friend. how about that!
I can recall very few girls in the past 20 years who mentioned her boyfriend to me without having to be asked about it. All others simply "failed to mention it", often I'd find out when I ran into the two of them together and even then usually I'd have to ask who the guy was.

A recent one was flirting with me at a party while her boyfriend was in the other room, I only found out when I overheard her introducing him to someone else a short while later. Cut her off for sure right after that.
 

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Interesting I get the I have a boyfriend line with a reasonable frequency but it's almost always with girls I have no interest in... I wonder why that is ...
 

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DonJuanit0 said:
You didn't read the signs well?!? She was a wh*re so you don't neet to pay attention to her anyway just f*ck her if she is really interested? Again, if she has a bf and is really interested in you she will either cheat or break up! Orelse she is just satisfing her ego with you! how about that?!? :p
well she eventually left him for me, lol. won't do that again though. I learned the hard way.
 

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well she eventually left him for me, lol. won't do that again though. I learned the hard way.
That's the point there! Well no if he is a mutual friend, but...
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Thanks all for the opinions however..

Iceberg said:
It's a noob question, because it shouldn't matter. Well, of course it matters, but hear me out....

Your goal is to get her out of her work environment and one-on-one with you at a bar (or something social). So, when you ask for her number, or when you ask her out, you'll find out about her boyfriend situation.

You cannot go around trying to date women and be afraid of the rejection that comes with "I have a boyfriend."

That's like trying to be a champion swimmer, but being too afraid to dip your feet in the water to find out if it's cold.
As I said she works in a place I often attend its not about picking up a random girl at the club, she could be engaged to someone else working there for example, thats why my doubts if it was a place I dont gv a fvck I would have just simply go for it.
She could "forget" about her boyfriend with me asking only to have him coming cause he is the guy working there as well or he is the brother of someone there etc...if no idea comes I'll go for it anyway but if I can do a better plan that riskying its better..

She could "forget" about her boyfriend who can happen to be the other guy working around the desk etc


DonJuanit0 said:
As in a post a few back (cause guys should FIRST look if there's a similar post and read THAT before post a new one about the same subject)

If she is interested in you she doesn't have a boyfriend, if she is not, well she definately have one! Hope you get the meaning! :)
As I said there is not only the girl factor but also the environment factor, I cannot screw up in that place, if I could afford a mistake I would have been more than glad to risk for it.
And it doesnt need to read an other thread to understand what I wrote in the first lines.
She could "forget" her boyfriend only to have him coming because he works there as well or because he is a friend of someone else working there...so? I mean Im going for it anyway sooner or later but with a good plan that doesnt rely on luck would be better.
 

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Who Dares Win said:
Thanks all for the opinions however..


As I said she works in a place I often attend its not about picking up a random girl at the club, she could be engaged to someone else working there for example, thats why my doubts if it was a place I dont gv a fvck I would have just simply go for it.
She could "forget" about her boyfriend with me asking only to have him coming cause he is the guy working there as well or he is the brother of someone there etc...if no idea comes I'll go for it anyway but if I can do a better plan that riskying its better..

She could "forget" about her boyfriend who can happen to be the other guy working around the desk etc



As I said there is not only the girl factor but also the environment factor, I cannot screw up in that place, if I could afford a mistake I would have been more than glad to risk for it.
And it doesnt need to read an other thread to understand what I wrote in the first lines.
She could "forget" her boyfriend only to have him coming because he works there as well or because he is a friend of someone else working there...so? I mean Im going for it anyway sooner or later but with a good plan that doesnt rely on luck would be better.
So nexting her is not an option for you? I mean you have this huge problem (her boyfriend being there, in which I agree it is a problem) Anyway, I can't come up with any good plan for this! I'd next her if it was early enough!
 

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1) Google her name.
2) View her public Twitter comments to find reference to man's name.
3) View her public Facebook friends list.
4) Search for man's name in list.
5) Open his FB profile and note that he lists himself as "In a relationship with..." her.
6) Confirm via his public feed that notes they were at such and such location(s) on such and such date(s).

This really happened to me. As in two days ago. I told her I knew, then had sex with her, then sat her down at my PC and showed her the above steps, arriving at her boyfriend's page with her on my lap. I commented how handsome he was and laughed. Her expression was priceless.
 

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bigneil said:
1) Google her name.
2) View her public Twitter comments to find reference to man's name.
3) View her public Facebook friends list.
4) Search for man's name in list.
5) Open his FB profile and note that he lists himself as "In a relationship with..." her.
6) Confirm via his public feed that notes they were at such and such location(s) on such and such date(s).

This really happened to me. As in two days ago. I told her I knew, then had sex with her, then sat her down at my PC and showed her the above steps, arriving at her boyfriend's page with her on my lap. I commented how handsome he was and laughed. Her expression was priceless.

If I'm doing all this research for a girl I haven't even f**ked (really haven't even got her NUMBER yet), then I'd be smack in the middle of a case of One-itis, wouldn't I?

I mean, hey, do what you gotta do. But we're just talking about one broad here. Hey she could be single, you could get her number, and even then things might not work out.

Too much effort for too little progress.
 

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The "research" took all of 30 seconds for me, and since I had been sleeping with her since October it was justified. BTW she swore it's just her ex. I don't take the boyfriends too seriously. She either likes you or she doesn't.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Simple ass answer, which was stated in my stickied thread on the front page.

If you're attractive to her, she has no boyfriend. If you aren't attractive, she has a boyfriend who plays football.

Roll with the punches and stop being scared of rejection. Judge's orders.

Case closed.
 

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Let me go straight to the point, my concern is burn myself the place where she works not so much being rejected, rejection I can afford while change gym not.

Cannot look for her name on google cause I dont know it, anyway I decided I'll take the risk and next time I'll go to train there I'll make a move.
I will let you know in this thread ;)
 

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ask an innocent side question, if she went out at weekend with her boyfriend or something. if she says no, then answer uncovered.
 

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you don't know, you just go for it.

I know, it seems crazy. I felt endlessly embarrassed the first couple of times it turned out she had a guy. But you get over that surprisingly quick.

Just remember, that embarrassment lasts muuuuch shorter than the anticipation. And again, I know, it seems insane. But it's true.
 
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