"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Nobody fears hearing no

S. Pryor

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Men don't care if a girl says "no I'm not interested" or "I'm sorry but I have a boyfriend". Those lines are weaker than sugarless Kool-Aid. What we really fear is GETTING SHITTED ON! Nobody wants to be in a situation where you're talking to a girl and you KNOW she hears you but she doesn't say anything. Nobody wants to talk to a girl and she just stares at you like "why are you talking to me?" Even worse she verbalizes it! "WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING TO ME?" "GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM MEEEEEEEEE!!!!! You don't want to be in a situation where a girl flips her fucking lid! If she says something like "I just got out of a relationship and I'm not looking to date right now" that's not bad. We don't mind being "rejected" but no one wants to be disrespected. Why can't we just be honest in saying that?
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Just a Shot Away

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You're speaking for yourself, man. A girl that I took a year to work up the courage to ask her out told me 2 months and 27 days ago that she couldn't go to lunch with me because she had a boyfriend, and I'm STILL trying to decide whether or not she was telling the truth, and if she wasn't...why?

I think most people will agree that any type of rejection is unwelcome.
 

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Granted you didn't want to hear that but it's not like she tried to do some soul crushing shit to you just because you wanted to talk to her. If you didn't believe she was telling the truth then you could have run some boyfriend destroyers on her. I know that that's shunned upon here for the most part but at least you'd know the truth. She could either really have a bf or she'd end up confiding to you that she just says that to get rid of guys and end up having sex with you.
 
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Just a Shot Away said:
You're speaking for yourself, man. A girl that I took a year to work up the courage to ask her out told me 2 months and 27 days ago that she couldn't go to lunch with me because she had a boyfriend, and I'm STILL trying to decide whether or not she was telling the truth, and if she wasn't...why?

I think most people will agree that any type of rejection is unwelcome.
:nono: Just move on.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Mike32ct

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S. Pryor said:
Men don't care if a girl says "no I'm not interested" or "I'm sorry but I have a boyfriend". Those lines are weaker than sugarless Kool-Aid. What we really fear is GETTING SHITTED ON! Nobody wants to be in a situation where you're talking to a girl and you KNOW she hears you but she doesn't say anything. Nobody wants to talk to a girl and she just stares at you like "why are talking to me?" Even worse she verbalizes it! "WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING TO ME?" "GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM MEEEEEEEEE!!!!! You don't want to be in a situation where a girl flips her fucking lid! If she says something like "I just got out of a relationship and I'm not looking to date right now" that's not bad. We don't mind being "rejected" but no one wants to be disrespected. Why can't we just be honest in saying that?
I agree completely. I tried to make eye contact with this girl the other day. I was just going to say hi. I wasn't trying to pick her up. She literally rolled her eyes at me. The rejection didn't bother me, but I was quite offended by the disrespect.
 

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She rolled her eyes at you? What was your response? I would stop her and mention how rude that is.. and perhaps ignore her for the rest of your life.

Just move on. Although it doesn't sound it, that is the best advice for you in this scenario. Whether she has a boyfriend or not, she is not interested. You would be wise to focus your attention on improving your game and hitting the gym a bit more, you have to put yourself in a position where you have multiple options.

Hope this helped.
 

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Mike32ct said:
I agree completely. I tried to make eye contact with this girl the other day. I was just going to say hi. I wasn't trying to pick her up. She literally rolled her eyes at me. The rejection didn't bother me, but I was quite offended by the disrespect.
Spit some beech nut in her eye next time.
 

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lugsy211 said:
She rolled her eyes at you? What was your response? I would stop her and mention how rude that is.. and perhaps ignore her for the rest of your life.

Just move on. Although it doesn't sound it, that is the best advice for you in this scenario. Whether she has a boyfriend or not, she is not interested. You would be wise to focus your attention on improving your game and hitting the gym a bit more, you have to put yourself in a position where you have multiple options.

Hope this helped.
Yes, she did. I didn't respond. I just walked away. It caught me off-guard, and I didn't know what to say. I should have at least called her out on the rudeness before I walked away. This happened at bar.
 
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