"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I went on a date with a girl and at the end of it, I actually told her that I wanted to kiss her (I'm a no confidence pu$$y). She said not in front of her house (I'm an awkward little b1tch who let a girl lead) so I pulled up so I wasn't in front of her house. We kissed for a bit and then chilled until she went in. She texted me the day after so I eventually set up a date. She ended up flaking. I think it was because my lack of smoothness that night. Does this make sense?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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How do you not be a timid little fagg0t? I mean, did I come off as shy? I'm not fvcking shy
 
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no. They should have a pathetic young adult forum. I need to learn how to stop being a shy little fagg0t with girls. I can't be. That's not who I am
 
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Giantsfan88 said:
How do you not be a timid little fagg0t? I mean, did I come off as shy? I'm not fvcking shy
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Dude woah don't be so hard on yourself..

Sure your date didn't seem very adult like.. Seemed like a thing middle schoolers/teenagers would do..

But who cares? Don't beat yourself up over it.. There's always room for improvement. 1 girl flaking on you is not the end of the world.
 
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Relax. Use every interaction with a girl as a learning experience Non of this will happen overnight. Go to the gym.

Constantly test yourself. Each time, each approach or kiss or whatever it is, it will get easier and you will learn. Listen to the folks here as well, they will help.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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she flaked on you cause she is not into you, not because you asked her to kiss her.
 
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Feel up her ass. Pull her into you, move your hand up her thigh to her butt and squeeze. She will like that better than a kiss (do that also) and she will think about sex instead of weird crap. Easy. If she doesn't want her butt squeezed too bad, so sad. You just hand raped her. Let her stop it. She won't.

Butt squeeze -> better second date results

KingofPuss is totally right when he said you learned. It makes all the difference to feel it flow right or wrong. Good ****ing job getting out there and trying.
 
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No, I'm not explaining myself well. It doesn't have to do with it being one date. I didn't learn anything. I've been in this situation plenty of times. I'm not some beta fagg0t. I know what I'm doing with girls. This is unlike me. That's why it's frustrating. I'm venting. I don't understand. I didn't give enough details.
 
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grayclif said:
Relax. Use every interaction with a girl as a learning experience Non of this will happen overnight. Go to the gym.

Constantly test yourself. Each time, each approach or kiss or whatever it is, it will get easier and you will learn. Listen to the folks here as well, they will help.
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IM 24 IM FVCKING FINE. I DONT NEED THIS BULLSH1T. I SHOULDNT HAVE EVEN WROTE THIS IN HERE. I SHOULD HAVE KEPT IT IN A FVCKING JOURNAL. NOW I SUBJECTED MYSELF TO A BUNCH OF ASSH0LES TELLING ME TO IMPROVE MYSELF BASED ON SOME OUT OF CONTEXT INFORMATION. I DUNNO IF I FVCKED UP. MAYBE I DID. MAYBE I DIDNT
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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KingofPuss said:
Yah man don't beat yourself up over a woman you went on ONE date with.

For future reference, if the date went well, when you pull up to her place just go straight in for the make out sesh. It has NEVER failed me. But you need to learn if she's into you and wants it. Study up on IOI's and learn to read body language (from literature and real life experience).

So look here, you failed on this one, but you LEARNED what not to do in the future. And that's more important than anything that could have come of this woman. So congratulate yourself on getting better.
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FVCK YOU. WHAT I DID WASNT THAT BAD. MAYBE I WAS EXHAUSTED OUT OF MY MIND CAUSE I DIDNT SLEEP THE WHOLE NIGHT BEFORE. I CAN READ BODY LANGUAGE. FVCK YOU THINK I HAVE ASPERGERS SYNDROME? IVE DONE THIS SOOO MANY TIMESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I knew this was a Troll post. Delete thread
 
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Man this thread got out of control pretty fast.

All you need to know about cancelled dates is that it is a sign of low interest. That is it, the reasons for low interest are not really that important. Don't worry about one date with one woman... There are billions out there all you need to do is find a couple that have enough interest to keep dates.... it's not that hard. Flush this one and move on.

I will say this though... in the future don't ask permission from a woman. She really doesn't like that. She wants you to be in control.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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HOW DID I ASK PERMISSION? OH MY GOD DUDE. PLEASE. I KNOW IT GOT OUT OF CONTROL. BUT I DEFINITELY BEGGED AND LOOKED LIKE A WIMP? LIKE A WUSS? A FAG? JUST SAY IT. I DONT WANNA MOVE ON. I WANNA SEE NOBODY
 
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HOW DID I ASK PERMISSION? OH MY GOD DUDE. PLEASE. I KNOW IT GOT OUT OF CONTROL. BUT I DEFINITELY BEGGED AND LOOKED LIKE A WIMP? LIKE A WUSS? A FAG? JUST SAY IT. I DONT WANNA MOVE ON. I WANNA SEE NOBODY
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You told her you wanted to kiss her and she told you okay, placing conditions on how this was going to happen, and you agreed. If you wanted to kiss her then you should have just gone for it. If she didn't want to kiss you she would have turned her head and you would have gotten her cheek... then you would know she has low interest in you, so you can flush and find another girl.

So you are going MGTOW... okay, no problem no need to stay here anymore.... go buy subscriptions to porn sites, get a jar of Vasoline, and go after things you want and forget women. I'm not saying this isn't an option, I know plenty of guys that have just given up on women and they seem perfectly happy. There are PLENTY of MGTOWs that have done great things, Issac Newton, Michael Angelo, go be one of them.... you'll save a lot of money and your career will just hum right along.

This forum is about men who are trying to figure out modern relationships and how to navigate the world of dating... understand the true hypergamous nature of women and what they really respond too rather than what society and the media says in this feminist created modern nightmare.
 
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