JohnChops
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
no sh1t, when you get in shape it all changes drammatically
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I don't think most people realise the dedication it takes to be "muscular". You might see a muscular guy and assume he's shallow, yet he's in that gym constantly pushing to be better he was than the last time he was there. How often do you guys who don't work out wake up and try and beat a personal best? It's a habit that can be great to take into the rest of your life. Breaking past the initial honeymoon period of "noob gains" and making it a long term part of your life is hard work.
Dedication, self-discipline and long term health are all intrinsic to working out and scream "husband material" to a woman.
The degree to which you take your obsession with fitness, and how these other values balance out with the vanity side of things, will affect the type/number of women your physique attracts.
Dedication, self-discipline and long term health are all intrinsic to working out and scream "husband material" to a woman.
The degree to which you take your obsession with fitness, and how these other values balance out with the vanity side of things, will affect the type/number of women your physique attracts.
Who Dares Win
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As much as I try to think about it, I cant find any sourche of internal confidence.JohnChops said:
How can you be confident without testing yourself and getting an external result or an external feedback?
I mean Im confident of my strenght cause I can bench press 100kg not because I believe that I can lift 100kg if I try, Im confident of my strenght cause I see them moving.
Im confident about my social skills because in the last years I've been successful dealing with men and having sex with women, how else could I be confident in my social skills with no external feedback?
Confidence comes from facts and results not from your own opinions or esteems of your value.
I cant be "confident" by myself, if I go to the beach the way I am now I'm confident cause Im in a better shape than 80% of the other men while if I happen to be in a fitness model competitions near some pros Im surely not as confident as the first case.
Lets say you have an above average d1ck and get naked near a normal girl, would you be confident the same way as if getting naked near a girl only dating guys hung like horses?
Of course we all would like to think that our value depends on our ability to create it but there are situations where your value is what you got and what you managed to achieve through action, confidence is just an esteem of such value which influence our state of mind, its not our state of mind that influence our confidence.
Not sure if I explained myself clearly.
zekko
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I saw this here so I was reading a bit of Corey Wayne's book. This is a perfect example of why I get extremely frustrated reading pickup material, it is so full of such utter bullsh!t. Wayne says:MillionBillionaire said:
A typical girl will go out on Saturday night and give her number to 10 or 12 guys. 99% of them will call her the next day, but YOU are one of the 3%! You will wait a few days to call her, and you are the one who will stand out as different and get the date with her.
Excuse me? That is pure crap. EVERYBODY knows the old "wait three days to call" rule. How the hell can this guy claim waiting a few days to call makes you a three percenter? SMH. Who is this sh!t written for, 12 year olds?
Mr Wright
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There is actually such a thing though. If you look at most guys who are naturally good with women they are delusional and they think they are cooler than they actually are. It is straight up unapologetic delusion and it works. There is no actual logic behind their confidence so if you tried to break it down you would fail and end up being confused.Who Dares Win said:
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Poonani Maker
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I agree with all of this, I've been getting bigger too. It's Spring. The hunnies' pvssies are hankerin for a hot slab of meat. It's very obvious. They love my form (thru clothes). It's a my-feet-are-firmly-planted-on-the-ground "look" that gettin big gives you. I get tons of attention in Good Weather these past couple of weeks...getting my pick of the lot that way.
On another note, there's one (today)...skinny redhead gal (no tits) a couple of tats on her leg. I like skinny girls so she's falls within my acceptance zone (as opposed to the myriad fat girls over the past couple of weeks who want me and would let me fvck em). This particular skinny redhead lives with her bf (a bigger hairy/bearded dude) who I've met on a couple of occasions. Anyway, today, us alone, she was REALLY flirty with me and going outta her way to make more convo with me just to keep me talking to her (I really had to go), and I am sure that Next time I see her, I may go further with her (even though she has a bf, who might be able to kick my as5- he's got about 40 lbs on me). It's fair game if she ain't married in my opinion and I may hit it soon, and try to peel her away from him (he's very poor btw). She's in her mid-20s).
On another note, there's one (today)...skinny redhead gal (no tits) a couple of tats on her leg. I like skinny girls so she's falls within my acceptance zone (as opposed to the myriad fat girls over the past couple of weeks who want me and would let me fvck em). This particular skinny redhead lives with her bf (a bigger hairy/bearded dude) who I've met on a couple of occasions. Anyway, today, us alone, she was REALLY flirty with me and going outta her way to make more convo with me just to keep me talking to her (I really had to go), and I am sure that Next time I see her, I may go further with her (even though she has a bf, who might be able to kick my as5- he's got about 40 lbs on me). It's fair game if she ain't married in my opinion and I may hit it soon, and try to peel her away from him (he's very poor btw). She's in her mid-20s).
Poonani Maker
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I agree with all of this, I've been getting bigger too. It's Spring. The hunnies' pvssies are hankerin for a hot slab of meat. It's very obvious. They love my form (thru clothes). It's a my-feet-are-firmly-planted-on-the-ground "look" that gettin big gives you. I get tons of attention in Good Weather these past couple of weeks...getting my pick of the lot that way.
On another note, there's one (today)...skinny redhead gal (no tits) a couple of tats on her leg. I like skinny girls so she's falls within my acceptance zone (as opposed to the myriad fat girls over the past couple of weeks who want me and would let me fvck em). This particular skinny redhead lives with her bf (a bigger hairy/bearded dude) who I've met on a couple of occasions. Anyway, today, us alone, she was REALLY flirty with me and going outta her way to make more convo with me just to keep me talking to her (I really had to go), and I am sure that Next time I see her, I may go further with her (even though she has a bf, who might be able to kick my as5- he's got about 40 lbs on me). It's fair game if she ain't married in my opinion and I may hit it soon, and try to peel her away from him (he's very poor btw). She's in her mid-20s).
On another note, there's one (today)...skinny redhead gal (no tits) a couple of tats on her leg. I like skinny girls so she's falls within my acceptance zone (as opposed to the myriad fat girls over the past couple of weeks who want me and would let me fvck em). This particular skinny redhead lives with her bf (a bigger hairy/bearded dude) who I've met on a couple of occasions. Anyway, today, us alone, she was REALLY flirty with me and going outta her way to make more convo with me just to keep me talking to her (I really had to go), and I am sure that Next time I see her, I may go further with her (even though she has a bf, who might be able to kick my as5- he's got about 40 lbs on me). It's fair game if she ain't married in my opinion and I may hit it soon, and try to peel her away from him (he's very poor btw). She's in her mid-20s).