"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
no sex, no love no nothing
- Thread starter rsofa
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
She told me stuff. She had a bf and there was a girl jelous and told her bf that she has been cheating on him, so he cheated back and so on...
She said im the only one who knows that. And she doesn't know why she told me this... So I hope this thread and story doesn't get into her eyes or im dead.
It's not so simple
LearningSlowly
Master Don Juan
And yes, it is so simple. She only wants you for a friend, otherwise she'd be all for it, no matter what the deal is with her boyfriend. It sounds like your timing is bad, she was getting some from at least 2 guys around the time you were trying to make moves.
Also, the fact that she got all deep with you doesn't mean much. Through these technology "girl talk" sessions, you've shown her that you will clean up all of her messy emotions for her. She provides you with those emotions because thats what you seem to want. (One time I told a girl I liked her via text, she said she was thinking about it. Two nights later, she told me she'd been raped, and that excuse kept me from hooking up with her, but not her from hooking up with someone else. I found out much later the rape was an elaborate lie. You cannot fix drama-hungry girls, they are toxic.)
Denials mean you didn't read signals correctly. Learn for the next one.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Here's a thing: You expected love from her.
While it's not the best thing to do (since it's better to generate than expectate), we all do that sometimes.
But even worse, you forgot about reality and sticked to your fantasy.
If you stop thinking about how the present should be or how you want it to be and learn to accept it as it is, you'll feel way better and you'll get better results.
I once tried to flirt with a woman in the street. She said she didn't like me but we started to talk anyways. Time later she said that she finds me interesting and special.
And second, if you learn to read signs from a woman, you'll be amazed from the way she acts when one likes you.
Seriously, don't fall in love just because she's pretty or because she has some personality quirk that you like. You can feel attracted, but that's far from falling in love.
LearningSlowly
Master Don Juan
Cry.rsofa said:
Think about her until you shake and cry, and get so angry that you want to flip **** over and punch through walls.
Then, let it recede.
Realize you've lost her.
Realize it's over.
Accept that it's over.
Then say: I don't expect to talk to her, or hear from her ever again.
Repeat this until you believe it.
Repeat this until you realize you've lost her...and can let her go.
ohbe
Don Juan
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
If I say shes beautiful, she will say shes not (shes not attention whoring) she just thinks shes ugly...
How can i convince her to listen to what i say to her. She says i dont love her, that i only like her as a friend. And that i love her because i just want someone/anyone to be with, just to be in a relationship. How to tell her its not like that?
apocolipto
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This.Nite said:
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
DanZy
Master Don Juan
Now I don't know what American women did to you to make you hate them so much but nothing you say is at all applicable to a high school setting nor possibly the real world.
I also never said a thing about having lots of guns. In fact, I highly recommend that you not bother with more than 2-3. The rifle is just for war, or serious foraging for food, neither one is a likely need. So all that remains really, is a pocket pistol. If you are really serilus about your training, then a 9mm might be of advantage to you, but for most, a Taurus PT22, in .22lr, is where it's at, cause without a LOT of skill and knowledge you are just "bluffing" with that gun.
A .22, with which you seem skilled and confident (due to lots of low cost pracatice and ease of mastery) lets you run a better "bluff" than a .45 with which you seem ill at ease. Nobody wants to get shot, because even the little .22 can be lethal. Without modern med care, a bullet in you means death from infection. If you get care, then they HAVE to report gunshot wounds to cops, which means prison for wrongdoers. So normally, they back down from just the SIGHT of your gun, about 80% of the time, in fact.
About half of the cases wherein just the sight of the gun doesn't suffice, MISSES with shots suffice. About half of the time when you DO have to hit the guy with bullets to convince him, a pair of SWIFTLY placed. .22's to the chest suffice. So it's actually pretty rare to actually be forced to "shoot him into the ground' with lots of rapidfire hits with a powerful load.
The rules here in the EU are different. Having sex with someone under 16 is I THINK considered as rape if you are older. But who is gonna know? No one does it and then yells around "I had sex"...
She's 17 now.
I think she is really immature... Kind of childish, kind of like that, but when it comes to some sex jokes or anything referring to that...she doesn't get it, and we always have to explain to her, and then she's like "ugh... boring"...
She also doesn't give a **** about school and her grades much... She's kid of ****ed up, I don't know if she will ever grow up or something...
What are you talking about some guns???
there is no girl that I am struggling with, and has not been one for many years now. Millions of women would KILL to have the set up I have given my Filipina, so go SHOVE your "indentured servitude crap.
DanZy
Master Don Juan
Mate seriously fvck off. You were once funny because you're either a troll or a fvcking retard but it's gotten old fast. Mods, please ban him nowtwentee said:
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.