"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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No sex for along time yet.

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Got into a relationship with this girl, she's nice and shy,loyal and not prude etc ... kinda like a church girl or something.

Anyhow i asked about sex and everything, and i got told not for a looong time yet.


Do you guy's bother with girls like this?, sex is important to me and i don't think i could be with someone who makes me wait too long.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Demonicale said:
Got into a relationship with this girl, she's nice and shy,loyal and not prude etc ... kinda like a church girl or something.

Anyhow i asked about sex and everything, and i got told not for a looong time yet.


Do you guy's bother with girls like this?, sex is important to me and i don't think i could be with someone who makes me wait too long.
The longest I always had to wait was a month, I think if a girl truly belived in God and followed him then I can respect but that but I would make it clear to her that sex is important so it may be a deal breaker BUT if I really like this girl then it may not be
 
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You can't force her to have sex with you. You have two options:

1) Wait until she is ready.

2) Make it plain as a day that sex is integral to you and you cannot be in a relationship without sex and then walk away from her.

You either stay with her and respect her decision or you chalk her up as an incompatible partner, wish her all the best and then go and find someone who values sex in a relationship as much as you do.
 

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There is the chance that she has morals and does go to church.. or there's a chance she just has low interest and is using you as an emotional tampon while she goes to fvck other guys.

I'd say if it's THAT important to you, then ignore her for a little while. It's fvcked up, but this even works on girls who are highly religious and with morals. At the end of the day, they're still a women with all the flaws and emotional backdoors that every other woman has. I was talking to a women who wanted to "save herself" until marriage, I told her I wanted sex, she said no. I immediately ignored her, and she proposed we do "other things". Next time I saw her she gave me a hand-job. Not quite what I was looking for, but good enough for me. As far as I know she's still a virgin. Only girl I ever met in my life who was like that.

-Scars
 

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go for the a$$, my ex was a virgin, but gave that up to me regularly until she was ready :up:

Yeaj, I know thats messed up right? but she wanted to keep me ;)
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Demonicale said:
Got into a relationship with this girl, she's nice and shy,loyal and not prude etc ... kinda like a church girl or something. Anyhow i asked about sex and everything, and i got told not for a looong time yet. Do you guy's bother with girls like this?, sex is important to me and i don't think i could be with someone who makes me wait too long.
Wow. There are quite a few things wrong with this scenario:

1. You didn't find out this information before you got into a relationship with her. Anything that could be a potential deal-breaker for either of you - including the sex issue - should have been brought up. These things are easier to negotiate beforehand; once you've agreed to be in the relationship, you've pretty much agreed to take on the situation as is, regardless of whether it was discussed or not.

2. You verbally asked her about sex instead of just going for it. You would have had a better chance of having sex with her if you would have just done something romantic, gotten her in the mood, made her feel sexy and done the necessary actions that lead to her wanting it from you. Instead, you asked her "so, what about sex," which now puts her on the defensive. Most girls won't just answer with "oh, right, sex - let's do it!" That sets off the slvt radar in their head, as in "if i answer 'yes' i'll look like an easy girl." That's why it's better for them to think that things "just happened" instead of feeling like they made the deliberate choice to do it.

3. Because you asked her, you gave her control of the frame. Notice that her answer was not "i'm a virgin and i'm waiting to get married before having sex." Nope, her answer basically said she is going to make you wait. Which means now, you can't bring it up anymore without starting an argument because she already framed that she's the one in control of when it goes down.

She may be a nice girl, but if sex is something you're wanting from her sooner than later, it's either not going to work out, or it's going to frustrate you to no end. And if she DOES decide she wants it, she'll still be in control of what activities you actually DO in bed.

I once dated a girl who was trying to wait til marrige for sex, yet was down to do everything else but d-to-v contact. And me, being the AFC i was at the time, went along with it thinking i'd be happy with whatever she was willing to do. As nice as she was, though i could never make her my gf knowing she wouldn't go all the way with me.

It's important to know what works best for you in a relationship before getting into one so things like this won't happen. For now, you have to decide if you can continue dating someone who'se holding your balls in a vice grip. Best of luck to ya!
 

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Harry Wilmington said:
Wow. There are quite a few things wrong with this scenario:

1. You didn't find out this information before you got into a relationship with her. Anything that could be a potential deal-breaker for either of you - including the sex issue - should have been brought up. These things are easier to negotiate beforehand; once you've agreed to be in the relationship, you've pretty much agreed to take on the situation as is, regardless of whether it was discussed or not.

2. You verbally asked her about sex instead of just going for it. You would have had a better chance of having sex with her if you would have just done something romantic, gotten her in the mood, made her feel sexy and done the necessary actions that lead to her wanting it from you. Instead, you asked her "so, what about sex," which now puts her on the defensive. Most girls won't just answer with "oh, right, sex - let's do it!" That sets off the slvt radar in their head, as in "if i answer 'yes' i'll look like an easy girl." That's why it's better for them to think that things "just happened" instead of feeling like they made the deliberate choice to do it.

3. Because you asked her, you gave her control of the frame. Notice that her answer was not "i'm a virgin and i'm waiting to get married before having sex." Nope, her answer basically said she is going to make you wait. Which means now, you can't bring it up anymore without starting an argument because she already framed that she's the one in control of when it goes down.

She may be a nice girl, but if sex is something you're wanting from her sooner than later, it's either not going to work out, or it's going to frustrate you to no end. And if she DOES decide she wants it, she'll still be in control of what activities you actually DO in bed.

I once dated a girl who was trying to wait til marrige for sex, yet was down to do everything else but d-to-v contact. And me, being the AFC i was at the time, went along with it thinking i'd be happy with whatever she was willing to do. As nice as she was, though i could never make her my gf knowing she wouldn't go all the way with me.

It's important to know what works best for you in a relationship before getting into one so things like this won't happen. For now, you have to decide if you can continue dating someone who'se holding your balls in a vice grip. Best of luck to ya!

I appreciate the long reply, and some of what you said makes alot of sense.

I did know she would'nt get into sex easy before i started seeing her, but i also thought that it would'nt be such a big deal and that she would take the attitude of waiting. (ok maybe i'm not making sense here) .. i also thought i was being a good guy waiting, but after nearly 7 meet's and kissing etc .. i'd have thought something might happen.

I did ask her about sex as she was'nt going to make any moves, she told me she's not really done the tounge kissing, which made me feel like she's a virgin or very inexperienced .. so i HAD to ask.

I think i'm going to have to tell her, and probally over text as i won't see her for a week, and would'nt it be cruel to wait a week of being indiffrent with her only to tell her when i meet her?.

Also maybe like someone else said here, if i ignored her and did'nt txt her as much (which i'm doing now) then she may come around?.She's already asked me why i've gone quite.
 
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