hopelessguy
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Sent text at noon today for date #2. Still have no response. am i to assume low interest and next that biotch?
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
No Response to Text. Next?
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I have said it a million times do not text to ask a girl out on a date ever. Especially date number two call. But yes next her ***** ass don't waste your time shell probably text or try to attempt to talk to you later just do not respond.
hopelessguy
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eh i've texted girls for dates lots of times (and this one i facebook asked for date #1!) and have been successful. i think it's a generational thing.
but yeah am nexting her.
but yeah am nexting her.
Call her.
You wouldn't send an email for a date, why would you text it.
It's easier to turn someone down by text than by phone.
It's easier to turn someone down by phone than in person.
I would call her, just for ****s and giggles. Worst off she says no.
ALWAYS call.
You wouldn't send an email for a date, why would you text it.
It's easier to turn someone down by text than by phone.
It's easier to turn someone down by phone than in person.
I would call her, just for ****s and giggles. Worst off she says no.
ALWAYS call.
hopelessguy
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yeah no worries, i aint contactnig again. besides, i didnt really connect with her on date #1 so i wasnt really into her. she was cute, but there was just no spark. just wantd to get laid i guess. time to spin more plates.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
kingsam
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well if you have calledyou woudl have got a more definate answer, and woudl know EXACTLY where you stood/what the deal was...much less ambiguity
hopelessguy
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look, there's no two ways of viewing it. if her interest level was high enough, she'd respond. since she didnt respond, it's not high enough. at this point, that's no different from her saying flat out no. so yeah, there isnt that much ambiguity.
starplayer
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I may not be in your time zone so how long ago did you send it? I've had girls take 3-4 hours to reply to a text and it was still cool in the end. However, if she doesn't reply then I agree that it is low interest - take Danger's advice in that case.
I have also used texting to set up a meet with a girl (I know it goes against what many guys on the forum advise). It depends on the girl but it usually works for me if the girl is interested. I then finalize the plans over the phone.
However, I would say that you shouldn't ask for the date on the first text. You should send a text first to fish for interest and depending on how she responds you then ask if she wants to hang out on the second/third text then end the conversation. Don't text unless you have something to say.
I have also used texting to set up a meet with a girl (I know it goes against what many guys on the forum advise). It depends on the girl but it usually works for me if the girl is interested. I then finalize the plans over the phone.
However, I would say that you shouldn't ask for the date on the first text. You should send a text first to fish for interest and depending on how she responds you then ask if she wants to hang out on the second/third text then end the conversation. Don't text unless you have something to say.
hopelessguy
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It's been a day now. pretty sure i know the answer at this point.
thanks for the texting advice, though. ive already forgotten her, so it's cool.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Serg897
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1.) Like many of the guys on here have already said, usually its much better to call for a date than to text.
2.) Im a fan of the "two strike" rule. I agree that you probably shouldn't contact her again unless she contacts you first. However, unlike some the guys here I think it could be okay to try again if she contacts you. Just take it easy and see where it goes
Good luck
2.) Im a fan of the "two strike" rule. I agree that you probably shouldn't contact her again unless she contacts you first. However, unlike some the guys here I think it could be okay to try again if she contacts you. Just take it easy and see where it goes
Good luck
kingsam
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thers still a lot more ambiguity than calling, calling you put her on the spot, she has to answer, cant ignore you on the phone...hopelessguy said:
i wonder if she went out with a different guy she saw as more confident b'coz he bohtered to call her up! ha!
hopelessguy
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eh if she's going to ding me because some other dude bothered to call, he can have her.
really i dont care. im a great guy and i have other plates spinning (met yet anotehr girl today). its her loss.
really i dont care. im a great guy and i have other plates spinning (met yet anotehr girl today). its her loss.
I see all these guys posting about how "so and so girl" won't respond to their texts, but then they post that they're spinning plates so it doesn't matter. Is this really the case or are these guys trying to save face? If these plates are truly being spun, why would guys come on here and post about their problems with some girl who doesn't really even matter in the first place?
hopelessguy
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have no face to save. im pretty terrible with women and have only recently begun to take action about it. i didnt come here to post about my "problems," i just came to make sure i knew how to interpret her action (or non-action, rather).
and by "spinning plates" i dont mean im banging 5 other chicks, just that im actively pursuing them. if i was banging 5 other chicks, id have said so.
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Kailex
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She probably thought YOUR IL was low, because you were too lazy to even try to call her to set up a date.hopelessguy said:
She's just feeding off of YOUR non-action.
Next time, don't be lazy, CALL.
It's posts like this that are driving me nuts. There should be a pinned thread with an FAQ about texting, because we get theses questions EVERYDAY. STOP the texting. Pick up the phone, dial her number and CALL.
PLEASE.
And if you are going to text, if at all, make sure you do it the way starplayer said. IF YOU MUST, but still. CALL.
He said he uses text to gauge interest but all it ends up with a phone call either way.
Why are we so afraid to call women anymore to ask them out?
hopelessguy
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haha i guess it's flattering that she might have been rebuffed by my apparent low interest.
will keep in mind next time. oh well.
will keep in mind next time. oh well.
hopelessguy
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it's actually saved as a cookie, so i dont have to login and type it in repeatedly.
Joe Stud
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do as the man said... dump the moniker!
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.