"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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the ****! Dude youve hung out with her 3 times and havnt even kissed her. I wouldnt be suprised if your already in the friendzone. Just ****ing kiss her already on the lips yes!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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onyx said:
the ****! Dude youve hung out with her 3 times and havnt even kissed her. I wouldnt be suprised if your already in the friendzone. Just ****ing kiss her already on the lips yes!
i really want to! but i cant seem to find the perfect momemnt to do it. i've never kissed a girl before, so im really clueless :cry:
 

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Dude, move on this before you get friended. Kiss her on the lips. If she doesn't knee you in the nuts or something then go ahead with the french kiss.

Don't wait for timing, make your own. Say, "hey", she'll look at you and then kiss her.

I'm rooting for you man.

You could also spin this a bit afterwards and tell her something like you wanted to wait a few dates to make sure she wasn't just after your body. That should at least get a laugh.

Oni said:
like a french kiss?

or just on the cheek.
 

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I dont even have to find a moment I just do it its that simple. I usually say something first though..like "you gunna give me a kiss or what" or "im gunna kiss you so if u dont want me to then ull have to stop me" i dunno i just thought of that last one off top of my head but ya know..other than that get her square on and just go in for the kiss slowly...the more you think abt it and dont do it the more you let the opportunity run away
 

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when you first see her to pick her up take her hand like you are walking nest to her your right, her left. And move in for a kiss, not a make out, just a little kiss on the lips, then go to where you are going, and act like it wasn't anything special.
If she is interested in you, she will kiss you, because either she wants to, or cares about your feelings, and doesnt want you to feel rejected, which means she will want to in the future.
But all you have to do is take the chance. Dont get caught in the friend zone, try to get intimate, more kino, let her know without telling her directly that you want to do more than watch movies with her.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Today i met up with her for a little bit. I tried to take some initiatives by flirting a little but she seems too shy to keep eye contact and always look away. I know her personality too well and i know she's the kinda girl that likes to take things slow, that's why i was contemplating on whether or not i should jump straight into a kiss because of her personality.

There's a festival coming up soon that im asking her out to, I plan on making the move that day. But i wanna make sure that she's ready for it first.
 

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Oni said:
Today i met up with her for a little bit. I tried to take some initiatives by flirting a little but she seems too shy to keep eye contact and always look away. I know her personality too well and i know she's the kinda girl that likes to take things slow, that's why i was contemplating on whether or not i should jump straight into a kiss because of her personality.

There's a festival coming up soon that im asking her out to, I plan on making the move that day. But i wanna make sure that she's ready for it first.

IF you didn't have that many posts, unless they are all from this thread, I would say you're a troll.

Get this straight in your little hard head SHE WILL NEVER BE READY FOR ANYTHING YOU TRY ON HER. Get it???? Maybe when she is 78, widowed, with grandchildren, and lonely, she'll be able to handle a little peck on the lips from you.

At this point she is looking away and doesn't want to keep eye contact with you because you are coming across as needy and creepy, trying to hard, and she most likely already has you on the friend zone. Now, you probably not gonna end up being her friend by the time this is all over, so BE A MAN AND MAKE YOUR MOVE, for KRISAKES!!!!
 
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