"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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the ****! Dude youve hung out with her 3 times and havnt even kissed her. I wouldnt be suprised if your already in the friendzone. Just ****ing kiss her already on the lips yes!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Oni

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onyx said:
the ****! Dude youve hung out with her 3 times and havnt even kissed her. I wouldnt be suprised if your already in the friendzone. Just ****ing kiss her already on the lips yes!
i really want to! but i cant seem to find the perfect momemnt to do it. i've never kissed a girl before, so im really clueless :cry:
 

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Dude, move on this before you get friended. Kiss her on the lips. If she doesn't knee you in the nuts or something then go ahead with the french kiss.

Don't wait for timing, make your own. Say, "hey", she'll look at you and then kiss her.

I'm rooting for you man.

You could also spin this a bit afterwards and tell her something like you wanted to wait a few dates to make sure she wasn't just after your body. That should at least get a laugh.

Oni said:
like a french kiss?

or just on the cheek.
 

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I dont even have to find a moment I just do it its that simple. I usually say something first though..like "you gunna give me a kiss or what" or "im gunna kiss you so if u dont want me to then ull have to stop me" i dunno i just thought of that last one off top of my head but ya know..other than that get her square on and just go in for the kiss slowly...the more you think abt it and dont do it the more you let the opportunity run away
 

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when you first see her to pick her up take her hand like you are walking nest to her your right, her left. And move in for a kiss, not a make out, just a little kiss on the lips, then go to where you are going, and act like it wasn't anything special.
If she is interested in you, she will kiss you, because either she wants to, or cares about your feelings, and doesnt want you to feel rejected, which means she will want to in the future.
But all you have to do is take the chance. Dont get caught in the friend zone, try to get intimate, more kino, let her know without telling her directly that you want to do more than watch movies with her.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Today i met up with her for a little bit. I tried to take some initiatives by flirting a little but she seems too shy to keep eye contact and always look away. I know her personality too well and i know she's the kinda girl that likes to take things slow, that's why i was contemplating on whether or not i should jump straight into a kiss because of her personality.

There's a festival coming up soon that im asking her out to, I plan on making the move that day. But i wanna make sure that she's ready for it first.
 

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Oni said:
Today i met up with her for a little bit. I tried to take some initiatives by flirting a little but she seems too shy to keep eye contact and always look away. I know her personality too well and i know she's the kinda girl that likes to take things slow, that's why i was contemplating on whether or not i should jump straight into a kiss because of her personality.

There's a festival coming up soon that im asking her out to, I plan on making the move that day. But i wanna make sure that she's ready for it first.

IF you didn't have that many posts, unless they are all from this thread, I would say you're a troll.

Get this straight in your little hard head SHE WILL NEVER BE READY FOR ANYTHING YOU TRY ON HER. Get it???? Maybe when she is 78, widowed, with grandchildren, and lonely, she'll be able to handle a little peck on the lips from you.

At this point she is looking away and doesn't want to keep eye contact with you because you are coming across as needy and creepy, trying to hard, and she most likely already has you on the friend zone. Now, you probably not gonna end up being her friend by the time this is all over, so BE A MAN AND MAKE YOUR MOVE, for KRISAKES!!!!
 
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