No More Mr Nice Guy

[Rainman4707]

Started reading this book by Dr Robert Glover.

The book says if I recognize myself or someone I love I what I have read so far which I do, I recognize myself then continue reading book

Activity number one instructs me to find a group to help me recover from Nice Guy Syndrome so I chose this site

I imagine i'll post my progress here.

 

[mangotot]

Absolutely. Nice guys do finish last.

 

[Rainman4707]

The first chapter was very interesting. I spin plates, I don't text women much, im guarded, but the opening chapter made me realise that internally I may be nice for example trying to avoid conflict. Very interesting.

 

[Rainman4707]

Activity 2 :- Why would it seem rational for a person to try to eliminate or hide certain things about himself & try to become something different unless there was a compelling reason for him to do so? I was myself with women & it came to the point where I needed to change. I thought I was to nice so I began studying seduction

Why do people try to change who they really are? They feel they need to change to achieve their goals

The author asked these two questions & asked me to think about it.

 

[MOTU]

That's a good book. I have read it like 3 times. Glad you are going through it and doing the excersises.

 

[Eternal_water]

Started reading this book by Dr Robert Glover.

The book says if I recognize myself or someone I love I what I have read so far which I do, I recognize myself then continue reading book

Activity number one instructs me to find a group to help me recover from Nice Guy Syndrome so I chose this site

I imagine i'll post my progress here.

Could you write that sentence again please?

 

[ColonelKilgore]

Great book. But the best one out there is by far The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi which actually got me to this forum. Never knew about this forum before

 

[Rainman4707]

Could you write that sentence again please?

The book says if I recognize myself or someone I love in what I have read so far which I do, I recognize myself then continue to read the book.

 

[BraddH]

Dont be jerk either. Otherwise you have missed the point. Be a man with respect.

 

[Rainman4707]

After reading chapter two I don't think I am the kind of nice guy the author is describing at all. I can relate myself to some of the bullet points describing nice guys, but yeah I'm not the guys he's describing.

 

[Rainman4707]

Breaking Free Activity 5 -

Consider this:

If you did not care what people thought about you, how would you live your life differently? I see this as a stupid question for me as....well I'm getting a blind fitted in my bathroom tomorrow morning because my bathroom window is see-through....if I did'nt care what people thought about me then I suppose I wouldn't get the blind fitted, then Tom, **** & Harry can all walk past & see my hairy ass :s

If you were not concerned with getting the approval of women, how would your relationships with the opposite sex be different? Well....ahhhh maybe I'm being to bold here, but again I see this as a silly question as, well I was thinking a couple weeks back that...we pursue women, not the other way around...sexy women with big tits will have it no other way. Neil strauss is a great pickup artist..even he has to pursue.

 

[zekko]

Breaking Free Activity 5 -

Consider this:

If you did not care what people thought about you, how would you live your life differently? I see this as a stupid question for me as....well I'm getting a blind fitted in my bathroom tomorrow morning because my bathroom window is see-through....if I did'nt care what people thought about me then I suppose I wouldn't get the blind fitted, then Tom, **** & Harry can all walk past & see my hairy ass :s

If you were not concerned with getting the approval of women, how would your relationships with the opposite sex be different? Well....ahhhh maybe I'm being to bold here, but again I see this as a silly question as, well I was thinking a couple weeks back that...we pursue women, not the other way around...sexy women with big tits will have it no other way. Neil strauss is a great pickup artist..even he has to pursue.

Lol, this is the same problem I have reading seduction material. Usually before I get very far into it, I start seeing fundamental flaws in the author's viewpoints, which makes me question the entire structure. Anyway, interesting thread. And great point on Strauss.

 

[princess_124]

No, please we love nice guys! Especially guys like you... I've noticed ur the only guy who smiles here (uses smile emoticons). Please don't change

 

[MOTU]

To be clear, No More Mr Nice Guy isn't pickup material and it doesn't espous men being jerks. The book is about men recognizing they have grown up in a feminized society and learning to take responsibility for meeting their own needs.

 

[Between_The_Lines]

No, please we love nice guys! Especially guys like you... I've noticed ur the only guy who smiles here (uses smile emoticons). Please don't change

Your troll game is slipping, but you more than make up for it in the effort department

 

[Rainman4707]

Breaking Free Activity 7 :-

Question No1. Do you believe that people can see your human imperfections & still love you? Yes

Question No2. How would you be different if you knew the people who care about you would never leave you or stop loving you no matter what?
People change, that's the way it is. One day I decided I wanted to learn all the tools on how to seduce women & wanted to change myself into a guy who can seduce women

 

[Rainman4707]

In the next Activity the author asks me to pick one of the approval seeking behaviours below that I use to seek external validation & stop doing it.

1. Having one's hair just right
2. Being Smart
3. Having a pleasant, non threatening voice
4. Appearing Unselfish
5. Staying Sober
6. Being in good shape
7. Being a great dancer
8. Being a good lover
9. Never getting angry

The list goes on....but am not going to stop doing any of these. I can appreciate what the author is trying to do, but am not just gonna start drinking again because he says so or stop being a good lover or being in good shape.

 

[Rainman4707]

Ok now the author has told me to choose at least one thing from the list below & do it for myself

1. Exercise, work out, go for a walk

2. Eat Healthy food

3. Get enough sleep

4. Relax, play, goof off

5. Get a massage

6. Go out with buddies

7.Buy a new pair of shoes

The list goes on, but could someone PLEASE tell me what "goof off" means!?
I've never heard it be called that before =)

 

[Kres]

Help needed where do I start? Just realized I don't want to finish last any more. I am the same story of all the nice guys out there and just had the worst day if you know what mean. Need to know where to start

 

[Rainman4707]

Help needed where do I start? Just realized I don't want to finish last any more. I am the same story of all the nice guys out there and just had the worst day if you know what mean. Need to know where to start

Start by reading the don juan bible.