"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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No more female friends?

speakeasy

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I've been asking myself recently, do I really need any female friends? As I've said in other posts as of late, I've been struggling with a oneitis issue involving a girl that's been a long time friend. This lead me to reading the laddertheory.com website and how male/female friendships are often doomed to fail, particularly for the male.

I then started asking myself if I even need any female friends period. Unless they are introducing me to hot friends(which they are not), or they are hanging on my arms when I got to the club as social proof(which they are not)why do I really need them?

One problem I have in the game is not being able to start off things from the getgo with a woman as a man with romantic interests. Too often, I end up in "friendly chitchat" with a girl that leads to nothing but friendly interest, but doesn't dial up any romantic chemistry. If one has a number of female friends, he may fall in the habit of talking to women like they are sexless. Most the serious playas I've ever met don't seem to have much value in having female friends around. They don't call up girls to talk about music or politics or some interesting documentary they saw. They are about gaming woman, plain and simple, and they seem to have no need for having women in their lives as anything other than romantic interests.

So now here I am evaluating what if any benefits do female friends bring me. And are they conditioning me to be to "chummy" to women when it should be all about game.
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Obsidian

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haha, Ladder Theory is what initially turned me from my AFC lifestyle a year and a half ago ;)

Yeah, female friends are pretty pointless unless you're using them to pivot you onto other girls, which it sounds like you don't know how to do yet. Imo, the whole pivot theory nonsense is overrated anyway. If I want a friend, I'll find a guy. You can actually talk to guys about manly, guy stuff, and you can do fun activities with them (including pick up women without much awkardness).

If you really enjoy tantalizing yourself with female proximity, however, go ahead and make lots of female friends. :rolleyes:

The only good female friend is a girlfriend...
 

DJ1234

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I agree with you, I really don't have any female friends, just aquantiances. IMHO unless the girl is ugly and/or you are not attracted to the girl you really can't just be in a platnoic relationship with a girl. And even then why would you be friends with an girl unless you have value in her i.e. social proof, money etc.But if they aren't attractive or their ugly you really couldn't use them for social proof? I just think its impossible for me to be friends with girls w/o me hitting on them or just having a friendly chit chat...it would be awkwared..
 

Tha Realnezz

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I keep women around for sex & womanly favors(like shopping,cooking,etc)..

Things like printing out my e-mails,charging my phones,talking to my clothes to the cleaners,bringing me my lunch,a ride to a club,etc,..etc...

Women I don't phuck...around me?Either classmates,co-workers,relativez,or the best-freinds of women I boink/-ed..nothing more..

I dont get emotional around women I don't sleep and like personally...and I don't get attached to women I don't sleep with cuz quite frankly most women aint ****.

Player's Code,Rule Numero Uno..Don't mess with women you don't want unless you have to.
 
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