"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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bud_2005

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I kind of beat myself up over not having any. I had a couple in high school but since I've hit college I haven't really made any. I've kind of always had the attitude that unless I'm interested in a girl sexually, I would rather just hang out with my guy friends. But i do have a girlfriend and I like hanging out with her.

I am kind of shy too so I get kind of get intimidated around girls and that probably doesn't let me open up to them as much as guys. I don't know how do you guys usually my female friends?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The Comeback Kid

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I'm bumping this, because I have a very similar problem.

For the same reason as was mentioned in the oroginal post, I simply have a tough time making friends that are girls...and unlike bud_2005, I don't have a gf to boot. It seems whenever I try to make friends with a girl, if they're atleast somewhat attractive, they THINK I "like" them when I really do not b/c I use things like wit often and try to make them laugh.
 

Hitman10000

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Uhh... I honestly would not want to be friends with a female friend because I feel they will feminize me and the only persons that should be doing that would be my mother, sisters, ie...relatives and my girlfriend/wife/etc.

While you can get a "female perspective" it can be sketchy because you will believe that everything they say is the truth about women when it's not. Make them into your "acquaintances" or 'activity buddies" if anything.
 

The Comeback Kid

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You are correct in not wanting too many female friends (I feel one or two is okay IMO...there was an article on SoSuave explaining this not too long ago).

I think what Bud_2005 may mean, and what I would be inferring to is not to be great friends with the girl, but one that I can talk to - past a "hey, how you doin?'", one that will give you a hug when they see you, one that you can go out with AS FRIENDS (like to parties and stuff), one that will notice you though as a friend, etc.

If you, or anyone wants to state their opinions on this, it would definitely be some decent insight.
 
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