Eternal_water
Master Don Juan
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I've got an amazing idea, for all those people who think no fap doesn't work and think its stupid: don't go no fap and do stop paying attention to this thread.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
In all likelihood, the feelings and energy you are experiencing are the result of your exercise regimen, not no-fap. If you were really interested in conducting an experiment into the effects of no-fap you would keep everything else in your life unchanged (as much as is humanly possible) except for ceasing to fap. If you change too many things at once there's no way you can be sure that any changes are the result of no-fap rather than something else. (This is just basic logic.)Groovy said:Today is day 11 . I've been jogging every day for 40 minutes and doing a lot of exercise in general. I feel much better then I did before I started doing this. I have more energy, which is always a good thing. I am more confident, I guess. And I feel more like myself! Yeah! I like that!! Go go go! Woohoooo!
I've been sleeping 8 hours every day but today I slept about 10 hours... What gives? I think the exercise is the culprit. Opinions on that, please!
Guess I'm going back to day 1 then... which will end tomorrow night. For the morning, I'd say that in an average week, half the time I wake up to it soft. It has definitely been responding a little more the last couple days so something was working. But yes, many times during sex, we almost had to 'force' it to stay up. I haven't tested it lately though. Since my breakup, I've lost nearly 30 pounds (I was 300) and I've been taking Pygeum Extract to see if that would change anything. I've been also trying kagels whenever I remember but that hasn't been too often. Honestly, I'd have to say that being successful with a pillow is a good sign.Groovy said:That's not as heavy as masturbation + ejaculation, but still a little. I'd say go back to day 1. And go exercise instead of doing it with you pillow!You'll feel better in a while! Just one thing, do you have a hard on in the morning? Because from what you described, your body is ruined from doing it 8 times a week and you can't even get hard at all during sex!
I want to try to help, so pls answer. Not having a boner in the morning could indicate that something's not right.
I did do that. I used to fap every 3 days or something due to blue balls (read some other posts of mines). My resistance was way lower the next few days. :nervous: But I still slept only 8 hours... Now after no fapping for 12 days, I started sleeping 10 hours! Haha. Any comments on that? Maybe the exercise is getting to me? But after exercise, I feel more energetic and can't sleep for like 2 hours! But I wake up after 6-7 hours and am like "ok, let's go a little more". Psychological maybe? I'll try to set the alarm clock 8 hours after I fall asleep tomorrow. I hope my body hasn't stopped making testosterone... If that happened, I will have to do even more exercise! Wooooooooow!csycpr said:In all likelihood, the feelings and energy you are experiencing are the result of your exercise regimen, not no-fap. If you were really interested in conducting an experiment into the effects of no-fap you would keep everything else in your life unchanged (as much as is humanly possible) except for ceasing to fap. If you change too many things at once there's no way you can be sure that any changes are the result of no-fap rather than something else. (This is just basic logic.)
Don't do kegels! Trust me. I speak from experience. It will mess up your penis, kegels are good for women and in some cases for old people I believe. If you trust me, a random stranger from the internet, you won't do them. Also, try to stop ejaculating and do what I've been doing, exercising, do it especially since you're overweight. Let's see if you can wake up with boners every day (more exercise = better body!).AnimeAddict said:Guess I'm going back to day 1 then... which will end tomorrow night. For the morning, I'd say that in an average week, half the time I wake up to it soft. It has definitely been responding a little more the last couple days so something was working. But yes, many times during sex, we almost had to 'force' it to stay up. I haven't tested it lately though. Since my breakup, I've lost nearly 30 pounds (I was 300) and I've been taking Pygeum Extract to see if that would change anything. I've been also trying kagels whenever I remember but that hasn't been too often. Honestly, I'd have to say that being successful with a pillow is a good sign.
So, moral of the story today: don't have sex with pillows... you might get them pregnant.
As a side note: I will admit, since I was starting from day 1 again, I decided to let one go. I'm actually really glad I did... it felt amazing. It definitely gave me a reason to shoot for the 90 days now. (There was an overly excessive amount of *** though... most I've ever seen. Kinda scary actually.)
Keep up the good work everyone.
AA, out.
From the beginning
Day 6 mess up?
Okay then.. no kagels.Groovy said:Don't do kegels! Trust me. I speak from experience. It will mess up your penis, kegels are good for women and in some cases for old people I believe. If you trust me, a random stranger from the internet, you won't do them. Also, try to stop ejaculating and do what I've been doing, exercising, do it especially since you're overweight. Let's see if you can wake up with boners every day (more exercise = better body!).
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
What happened? Your mind is playing tricks on you... And you took the bait, like a rat takes the cheese!AnimeAddict said:Alright, So after Saturday's breakdown, I had a small issue that I just needed to confirm today before I get any further into my second attempt at this challenge (Trust me, it was a little necessary -.-; ). Needless to say, I will be beginning Day 1 today and will take another serious attempt at this challenge.
AA, out.
From the beginning
Day 1 take 2
Hey Everyone,Groovy said:What happened? Your mind is playing tricks on you... And you took the bait, like a rat takes the cheese!
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Hey Everyone,Groovy said:Warning: Super wall of text, more of a mind dump.
I've been doing a lot of exercise, at first it was like 30 minutes of running, then it went to 40 minutes, then one hour, I finally found a kid who wants to run with me- SUPER AWESOME. So we started "recruiting" more people to our "group". So far, yesterday was the first day another person showed up, so we were three, the other guy was CRAZY, TOTALLY HYPERACTIVE. All he wanted to do was sprint and run up and down stairs! We were beaten by the end of 30 minutes. We had also swam and walked 1 hour that day before, not to mention we went to the beach. But at the end of the 30 minutes the guy was like "Ok, enough for today" and we were like WTF? So he said "ok let's go do pushups and stuff", so we did that for like 15 minutes and then he split. Then we went running for more 40 minutes... When I came home I still couldn't sleep due! Haha. I've been having more wet dreams too. I sometimes pop a herbal pill when I'm too tired, but it turns out I am not. I've had a wet dream 3 days ago, yesterday and today too, what the heck? I managed to stop like 50% of it coming out. So, more exercise?
Maintenance... that's alright I guess. blind, so, do you work out? I think it's super important with no fap... if not, you'll get the side effects of too much enegy (testosterone). Especially at our age. AnimeAddict, you are the one who needs exercise, you jacked off a lot. Looking back, I see you've been biking and have more determination. Wonderful. Also, no offense, you're 29, that's a little older then we are, could that affect the recovery? Maybe. You did years of fapping every day, right? So I suggest you pay extra attention to your diet + sleep. How are you feeling tho? Glad to hear you stopped the kegels!
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I'm not sure if you noticed, but this is a NO-fap thread.bcolon said:I fapped at midnight today and then did it this morning.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.