"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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No Contact rly works...

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im surprised at hwo much of an effect NC really has on a girl. I fell into the friendzone with her and she asked to still be friends b/c she really liked me (but as nothing more than a friend). I had two classes with her and a free that met everyday so i would see her ALL the time.

I unfortunately said yes...and it still hurt...seeing her and talking to her. i removed her from fb and aim and said i would never talk to her again. she noticed and asked to be friends. at this point, i felt that i had gotten over her so i said yes again (please don't kill me, i know i made the same mistake twice...:cry:)

At the beginning of this year (september) I decided that if she didn't say hi to me on the first day of school, im not talking to her. it turns out we have none of the same classes, so i gave her one more chance. day 2 comes and goes and nothing. so i remove her from my fb and aim again and i tell her i don't want to be friends or talk to her anymore (although she still wanted to be friends)

it's now been 6 months since i lasted talked to her in person. you can tell so much from her body reaction when she sees me walk in to a room she is in or talk to her friends. you can tell she really wants me to talk to her. i've seen her looking at me quite a bit and she seems really anxious when im around her.

i thought that NC would just be more for me to get over her, but she's feeling its affect too. :up:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Well yeah,no contact works,but NOT against the friendzone.


I hate to burst your bubble,but you really haven't done anything.

Yeah this girl is acting weird or anxious around you,but being weird and/or uncomfortable is different from feeling attraction.


She's acting funny because of the unresolved tension between you two,not because she suddenly became atracted to you.


She probably does want you to speak to her to help get rid of the uncomfortableness,not because she shaking and twitching with anticipation for you to ask her out.
 
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It works beautifully, but only if the girl is already interested in you.
 
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tsmith2334 said:
It works beautifully, but only if the girl is already interested in you.
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Uhh no?

What would be the point of going no contact if the girl is already interested in you?

Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb. :rolleyes:
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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katatonia said:
Uhh no?

What would be the point of going no contact if the girl is already interested in you?

Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb. :rolleyes:
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I didn't completely explain myself.

It only works if the girl was already interested in you but it fizzled. Then you go no contact for a little bit and her interest level increases.

It won't work, if she doesn't know who you are or doesn't care to talk to you anyway. So if the interest was never there, it's pointless.
 
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Igetit! said:
Well yeah,no contact works,but NOT against the friendzone.


I hate to burst your bubble,but you really haven't done anything.

Yeah this girl is acting weird or anxious around you,but being weird and/or uncomfortable is different from feeling attraction.


She's acting funny because of the unresolved tension between you two,not because she suddenly became atracted to you.


She probably does want you to speak to her to help get rid of the uncomfortableness,not because she shaking and twitching with anticipation for you to ask her out.
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To add to Igetit, NO Contact doesnt work if you haven't FVCKED the girl!
 
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909pua

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Igetit! said:
Well yeah,no contact works,but NOT against the friendzone.


I hate to burst your bubble,but you really haven't done anything.

Yeah this girl is acting weird or anxious around you,but being weird and/or uncomfortable is different from feeling attraction.


She's acting funny because of the unresolved tension between you two,not because she suddenly became atracted to you.


She probably does want you to speak to her to help get rid of the uncomfortableness,not because she shaking and twitching with anticipation for you to ask her out.
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To add to Igetit, NO Contact doesnt work if you haven't FVCKED the girl!
 
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909pua said:
To add to Igetit, NO Contact doesnt work if you haven't FVCKED the girl!
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Wrong, it can work on any chick if you cut off contact after she shuts down your advances, then are seen with or heard about with another preferably hotter girl somewhere in the future during your no contact phase.
 
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No contact worked because it caused Joshski to finally grow a pair and quit letting himself be obsessed with this chick. Now he realizes that she has no power over him. So well done.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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