"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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No car and trying to get a girl with a car insight?

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Piers Nivens

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Ok so I am trying to get with this girl I like. She has a car. I don't.

We're supposed to meet up soon this month. How will this affect our interactions? I mean we live in NYC so the most common and popular way of transport is the MTA/trains, but does not having a car really hurt?

Especially when she has one? (Even though its an old 2002 Nissan)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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1. You live in NYC
2. Her car is old. If it was some post 2008 Benz Honda Acura or Nissan it would have been different

you have nothing to worry about
 
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She pays more than the cost of the car every month to park it in NYC. I don't know why you would need a car to get laid there.
 
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Having a car is overrated.

It's only a problem if you make it a problem.

I've been with girls who drove cars when at times I didn't. How did I cope?

I made them chauffeur me around...on a few occasions I borrowed cars and didn't give it back for a while.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Just go out using the MTA. You don't need a car.

If she does bring it, you can either chill in the passenger seat like a boss; or tell her you want to drive because she's a woman (i.e. in a playful teasing way).
 
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You live in NYC. The car thing is a complete non-issue.
 
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Piers Nivens

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@ Jaegar, I am only 24. She is around the same age.
@ Eagle EYes, LoveAfter2009 and handle: My main worry was that what if having a car dictates status/financial power in her views? I think I am thinking too deep but just wanting some opinions if it matter whether I have a car or not
 
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Piers Nivens said:
@ Jaegar, I am only 24. She is around the same age.
@ Eagle EYes, LoveAfter2009 and handle: My main worry was that what if having a car dictates status/financial power in her views? I think I am thinking too deep but just wanting some opinions if it matter whether I have a car or not
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If you live in such a commuter friendly city, then a car is not necessary. Who cares what she thinks about you not driving a car. If she is so adamant about what type of car you have, that already tells you this is gonna be trouble down the line.
 
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Dude, if you can't have a car right now then so be it. If you aren't cool enough with who you are right now, chances are you wouldn't too even if you've gotten your hands on a car of your own. Because by then, you still don't feel enough, so you'd want a bigger car, then a tesla, you get the point.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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ok, so the basic point you all made is that it doesnt matter whether she has a car and i dont.

fair enough. thanks for the positivity guys, was a relief :)
 
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OP, if you live in NYC, its no problem. You have the MTA and taxis. You can also pay for those monthly car membership services. You pay a small fee, and only pay a little more when you use a car. It works well for a lot of people.

Look into that.
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1. You live in NYC
2. Her car is old. If it was some post 2008 Benz Honda Acura or Nissan it would have been different

you have nothing to worry about
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Untrue.

Have you lived in NYC? There is room to park in all of the boros...and for free. The only time youll pay for parking is in midtown manhattan or the lower side of manhattan if you dont wanna walk far to your venue.
 
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Parking is generally easy to find (granted, hardest in Manhattan) but outside of Midtown it is still relatively easy. The day of the week, time, and distance to your venues do play a big role however obviously.

Trying to get free parking around Columbus Circle in Midtown for example, is a nightmare.
 
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3agle 3yes said:
Having a car is overrated.

It's only a problem if you make it a problem.

I've been with girls who drove cars when at times I didn't. How did I cope?

I made them chauffeur me around...on a few occasions I borrowed cars and didn't give it back for a while.
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Wow that's great to know, even though I have a car, I still live with my parents due to unable to afford living on my own
 
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NYC is a completely different beast. I've seen people get laughed at because they had a car. You can't compare the lack of ownership of a vehicle in NYC as compared to any other place.

It really is a non-issue.
I live in New Jersey and have never driven to NYC or in NYC. It's pointless.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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