You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Your post adds nothing of value to the thread. You are a value taker. FAILIamJosan said:Another whining thread. *sigh* -_-
Another tool with nothing of value to add to the conversation. The adults are trying to have a conversation here.Tiguere said:Yeap . Another crybaby thread.
satelliteparties said:The reason the OP is getting some haters is because it goes against the whole "Ugly guy can get any girl he wants by sarging her and using the right game" myth.
So some of you like the hunt and the thrill of the chase and occasionally getting an exception lay out of it, good for you.
The biggest pimps I know wouldn't even know what the word AFC or kino means. They wouldn't be on this site in the first place. Women in their social circles come to them because of their looks or value within the circle.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Absolutely, you just don't see it. I don't see where this idea of women being approached left and right and all these pursuers come from. Yes at a club I don't doubt but anywhere else it just never happens. I saw a stanger approach a female some time ago in public and that was the first time in a very long. Infact the woman was shocked herself because she didn't expect it to happen the guy walked away with the #. Most guys are too scared to do it. What commonly happens that I see is a woman will be around that catches mens eye but they'll just stare they won't actually do anything about it. If you have the courage to take the risk where most men won't you'll already be far ahead of everyone else and this matters very much if you're looking to "impress" a girl.Forty0ztoFreedom said:Some good points in this thread, but the one point I would argue is this notion that every girl is this female-player that has 10 plates and has constant validation and male attention. The girls you'll meet out at a bar/club, maybe . . but otherwise, no. There ARE some girls in the world that have trouble with this too, probably more than we think.
Its not so black-and-white.
Your not going to impress a girl by approaching her. She views you with disdain. Just read some of the approach journals...90% of these girls that get approached give massive F-off signals right from the get-go.IKO69 said:Absolutely, you just don't see it. I don't see where this idea of women being approached left and right and all these pursuers come from. Yes at a club I don't doubt but anywhere else it just never happens. I saw a stanger approach a female some time ago in public and that was the first time in a very long. Infact the woman was shocked herself because she didn't expect it to happen the guy walked away with the #. Most guys are too scared to do it. What commonly happens that I see is a woman will be around that catches mens eye but they'll just stare they won't actually do anything about it. If you have the courage to take the risk where most men won't you'll already be far ahead of everyone else and this matters very much if you're looking to "impress" a girl.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.