"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Nice Guy VS Jerk question

CCFCmid

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How would you respond to a girl you were gaming who said something like...

"You never say nice things to me any more" after you've gone through the initital stranger danger stage and are progressing into creating attraction with teasing, disagreeing, walking away, neg-hits, few compliments stuff.

Is this an attempt from the girl to get some 'free' ego-massaging, without having to do anything (for instance do something to earn the compliments)? Which in essence would be a **** test? Trying to see if you will drop into the AFC 'yes man' role?

If I'm on the right lines here what would the correct course of action??

to keep going with the lack of compliments to assert you are not a ego-massagin yes man, or give a little increase in compliments before going back cold quite quickly afterwards?

As a bit of background: this girl is one of those, not hot, but cute innocent type girls, who from speaking to I believe would see most AFC types (gathered from several tidbits of info from her) as lonely, or clingy, but also then soon admitted, "but I'm (her) quite clingy too I suppose"

Again the workings of the female mind confuse lol!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Dont change anything. Maybe even take the piss out of it slightly? But in a playful way, dont rip into her about it.
 

zekko

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I'm not so sure it's a bad thing to say something nice to a woman once in a while. Remember, many jerks are LIARS. And what do they do? They POSE as the nice guy to get in the girl's pants. They tell her what she wants to hear. Then once they get what they want, they're gone. Classic case of the girl getting fooled by a guy.
 

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When in doubt, do nothing.

The question is nonsense. The answer you give is unimportant. Girls start talking crap like this once they like you. It's a sign she's been thnking about you, she starts making observations and comments about you or the relationship.

The only wrong answer would be to give her a compliment or take her seriously.
 

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Agreed with the others. Do Nothing.

Just another sh!t test. Boring.

If you try to take the piss out of it - you will probably lose face.

I usually respond with "You think too much" and then ill switch up the subject quickly.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yeah as I thought then, thanks for the confirmation!

Playing devil's advocate though lets say she's getting attention from an AFC type, which I believe she is, very typical type... and possibly this was a way of checking out my interest level before heading off towards the AFC if she didn't get the little compliment? Is this a possibility? or is this my AFC part of my head trying to tell me this still and fool me into that old role?
 

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CCFCmid said:
Yeah as I thought then, thanks for the confirmation!

Playing devil's advocate though lets say she's getting attention from an AFC type, which I believe she is, very typical type... and possibly this was a way of checking out my interest level before heading off towards the AFC if she didn't get the little compliment? Is this a possibility? or is this my AFC part of my head trying to tell me this still and fool me into that old role?
Your still thinking too much.

Stop thinking.

The more you overanalayze the worse the situaton gets.
 

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tinctrar said:
Your still thinking too much.

Stop thinking.

The more you overanalayze the worse the situaton gets.

Agreed, its a habit i'm trying to get out of
 

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There's nothing wrong with saying a few nice things, especially once she's already into you, as long as it doesn't come from a chump mindset (e.g. "wow you're so beautiful, therefore you are so much better than I, can you honour me by coming on a date with me please?")
 
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