"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Nice Guy Finished First... (reverse field report)

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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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wjh said:
iqqi's entitlement attitude is also terribly unattractive to me personally.

Can someone please tell me what I think I am entitled to, and where I said something that gave you that idea?

I am trying to have a mature discussion here.
 

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punchitchewy said:
What, a sex hotline I'm guessing? Why don't you post your address and credit card number then maybe we'll talk.
Look, you asked for the digits. Lol. You sure seem to have an entitlement attitude!
 

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iqqi said:
I am trying to have a mature discussion here.
Oh, you are?

You mean like the times you've called men pu55ies on here because they didn't fit neatly within your paradigm?

Whatever.

It's absolutely pointless to even address your posts on here directly.
 

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^^^ Great. Then don't post bull like what you just posted. There was no real material there. Good job, and that was your 300th post, you really earned it.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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iqqi said:
^^^ Great. Then don't post bull like what you just posted. There was no real material there. Good job, and that was your 300th post, you really earned it.
:yawn:
 

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So, Iqqi, what made you "pull the trigger" this time. not before?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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iqqi said:
Well damn. Now I must pity fvck you. :moon:

But seeing as I like it a little rough sometimes, and you are a fvcking pvssy, I hope you don't mind me slapping you around a little. :box:
awww, poor iqqi can't just give up the last word (or smiley in this case lol).
 

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Iqqi----

You appear to be pretty invested in making a point, here. I'm not sure exactly WHAT that point is, but you sure get pissed when we don't "GET" it, doncha?

Maybe it's a "loooks don't matter" point, or an "I'm hot and all the sorta ugly guys (But guys with game, nonetheless) really dig me" point, or whatever.

But your frustration is obvious.



You probably feel you've already explained yourself to death on this one, but perhaps you'll humor me in this one request:

Could you tell us WHY you felt compelled to relate this tale to us? What were we to LEARN from it EXACTLY? I am willing to learn from you if you'd like to lay it all out in a straightforward manner. Please leave critiques of our responses out, and go back to the original post ---- WHAT's the TAKEHOME MESSAGE?

Maybe we'll appreciate all this more if you try clueing us in on your motivation.....

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So, Iqqi, what made you "pull the trigger" this time. not before?
To be honest Interceptor, I kind of knew it would only be a matter of time. I have always found him to be one of the sexiest men I know. I thought he was sexy when I was unhappy in my previous LTR, and wished my ex was more like him in terms of demeanor, and manliness.

When I got out of my LTR, I just wasn't ready to do anything with anyone. I still know I'm not. But this past weekend, one thing just finally led to another. He did some things for me, and I did some things for him too, and it resulted in kind of a comraderie feeling for the night. That was followed up with some sexy dancing. Add in the long standing mutual attraction, and you have a night ripe for going a little too far a little too fast, lol!
 

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Believe it or not, I really think Iqqi posted it here to give some guys Hope.

I believe it was a well meaning post on her part.

She usually talks about men relating that they're not succeeding because they think they don't have the "looks", and then blame women for being too picky.
When she is trying to make a point , that from her view, it's more about having "game" and something that's confident and relatively "attractive", not necessarily Brad Pitt look a like.

The take home message to everybody is that you must convey sexuality at all times. Don't be a de sexed eunuch.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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wjh said:
awww, poor iqqi can't just give up the last word (or smiley in this case lol).
Yes, an awful lot like a former high post count member I know,..
 

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To be honest Interceptor, I kind of knew it would only be a matter of time. I have always found him to be one of the sexiest men I know. I thought he was sexy when I was unhappy in my previous LTR, and wished my ex was more like him in terms of demeanor, and manliness.

When I got out of my LTR, I just wasn't ready to do anything with anyone. I still know I'm not. But this past weekend, one thing just finally led to another. He did some things for me, and I did some things for him too, and it resulted in kind of a comraderie feeling for the night. That was followed up with some sexy dancing. Add in the long standing mutual attraction, and you have a night ripe for going a little too far a little too fast, lol!
OK, cool. Thanks.:)
 

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aliasguy said:
You probably feel you've already explained yourself to death on this one, but perhaps you'll humor me in this one request:

Could you tell us WHY you felt compelled to relate this tale to us? What were we to LEARN from it EXACTLY? I am willing to learn from you if you'd like to lay it all out in a straightforward manner. Please leave critiques of our responses out, and go back to the original post ---- WHAT's the TAKEHOME MESSAGE?
Well, alias, as usual you read a little too much into things, with an idea already in your head. I don't think anyone has a problem with getting it. That has actually been accused of me. I think the problem is that men here just want to hang on to their hang ups.

And, yes, I have said this over and over. But since you have asked, even though it comes across as condescending, I will just answer you here, instead of telling you to go read the thread.

My point of this thread is to counter the repetitive bs threads where guys think they aren't getting laid due to the fact they aren't models. And that there seems to be some huge fear of being mistaken for a doormat, so all basic civilty goes out the window.

Women ARE attracted to men for more than their looks. Looks are nothing but icing on the cake. AND women ARE interested in good men, with good traits.
 

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aliasguy said:
Could you tell us WHY you felt compelled to relate this tale to us? What were we to LEARN from it EXACTLY? I am willing to learn from you if you'd like to lay it all out in a straightforward manner. Please leave critiques of our responses out, and go back to the original post ---- WHAT's the TAKEHOME MESSAGE?

Maybe we'll appreciate all this more if you try clueing us in on your motivation.....
Dude, it's very simple. She had sex with an ugly guy who did nice things for her.

She's the type of girl who goes on male dominated message boards and tries to tell us that yes, we too, ugly or not, can have sex with a girl for being nice. :cheer:

There's no profound point to be made here.

Rollo laid out a very good explanation of one aspect of a woman's psyche - but really, I think iqqi's ego just wants stroking. This ego-investment she's made sure is frustrating her. lol it's amusing actually. I guess she was hoping to be someone on here. But gosh darnit we're just not understanding her, we're all obviously just emasculated pu55ies. Oh wait no that's just me! :up:
 

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Well, alias, as usual you read a little too much into things, with an idea already in your head.

:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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