"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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AverageFC

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I am really curious if someone has ever done what I'm about to suggest, because to me it's so funny I don't think I could keep a straight face.

So you go on a few dates, and the girl LJBF's you.
Has anyone ever said "No, sorry. I'm not looking for any friends right now?"
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Yes. I did this to a girl about five weeks ago. We were on the phone and I was flirting and joking around and she goes, "Listen, I just want to let you know now that I'm not looking for a relationship. And to be honest, if I were, I wouldn't date someone shorter than me again. It looks too wierd. But you're cool and I would like you as a friend." (she's 6 feet tall, ex-runway model). So I said, "That sucks. Cause I'm not looking for a friend. I'm looking for a relationship." Then I canceled our lunch meeting we were supposed to have that day, and hung up.

She came online and apologized for misleading me, and then told me that she thinks I should find someone more my type anyway (which didn't help the situation....like she knows what my type is. I don't even know what 'my type' is) Needless to say, I talk to her only when I see her in school (she's in one of my classes) or if I'm REALLY bored and can't find anything else to do.

Alexi
 

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When a girl LJBF you after a couple dates, don't act bitter. Be happy knowing she is saving you time and energy. Yes this is her way of dumping you (and you two aren't really going to be friends.)

I would take the time to ask what areas that was favorable and disfavorable about you. It's her honest moment, take advantage of that and then say good bye and don't plan on calling her.

This is better than a girl that LJBF but acts flirty or asks you to hang out. Or the types that NEVER say anything but will LJBF or tell you to stop if you make any romantic moves.
 

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Or you could say Friends I have in abundance so clearly new friends aren't high on my demand curve at the moment.

(This is a great comeback for a girl who LJBFs you and she's an economist of sorts)
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Originally posted by DrSoSuave
This is better than a girl that LJBF but acts flirty or asks you to hang out. Or the types that NEVER say anything but will LJBF or tell you to stop if you make any romantic moves.
This is what that girl did to me. She was very flirty, and I was flirty back, but once I started to make my intentions of wanting a clearcut relationship including ANY form of intamacy she backed off and pulled out the LJBF. And then went further by turning me down because she didn't want to date someone shorter than her again (she has in the past, but all of a sudden not for me), and that I should find someone more 'my type' (cause apparently she knows what's best for me).

So I was offended. But I just stopped. She's a complete AW, with ALL the signs, and now that I'm ignoring her she's begging for attention (asking me if I want to eat lunch, but if I end up agreeing she asks me if I'll pick it up and then bring it to her place, etc. etc.)

Alexi
 

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Originally posted by sfalexi

So I was offended. But I just stopped. She's a complete AW, with ALL the signs, and now that I'm ignoring her she's begging for attention (asking me if I want to eat lunch, but if I end up agreeing she asks me if I'll pick it up and then bring it to her place, etc. etc.)

Alexi
I have a couple of attention "wh0re" friends. The only thing you should be concerned about is what you get out of it. If you're going somewhere, ask if she wants to come along. Also, never depend on her or make the whole event circling around her, it should be you.
 

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and that I should find someone more 'my type' (cause apparently she knows what's best for me).
There must be a good witty retort to this too.

"So what is my type?" heh
 

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Originally posted by AverageFC
There must be a good witty retort to this too.

"So what is my type?" heh
I was going to confront her on this another time I met her. I figured it'd be best to ask her in person, just out of the blue the next time I saw her. But by that point, I really didn't want to bother seeing her. So I left it alone. I'll let her contemplate what my type is as she learns more about me and becomes more intrigued/interested in me. It'll be a long road cause I have to overcome some of her mental blocks, but I seem to be doing allright so far.

It's a two steps forward, one step back thing.

Alexi
 

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Originally posted by DrSoSuave
When a girl LJBF you after a couple dates, don't act bitter. Be happy knowing she is saving you time and energy. Yes this is her way of dumping you (and you two aren't really going to be friends.)

I would take the time to ask what areas that was favorable and disfavorable about you. It's her honest moment, take advantage of that and then say good bye and don't plan on calling her.

This is better than a girl that LJBF but acts flirty or asks you to hang out. Or the types that NEVER say anything but will LJBF or tell you to stop if you make any romantic moves.
Those first sentences were right on the money. That second part about asking her what was favourable/unfavourable about you....total garbage no offense.

DO NOT EVER and I mean EVER ask a girl who dumped you or LJBFed you what was good/bad about you. You will never get an honest response. It will always be sugar coated like crazy because girls usually want to keep you as a friend.

Everything else I agree with. She was upfront about it and didn't play games. That's a plus.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I've never had a girl say to me let's just be friends.....i don't think i'm very girl friendly i guess

in fact i don't think i've ever had a girl as a friend.....a real friend i mean, girls aren't fun
 

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girls aren't fun
I'd like to add a 'ny' to that. Girls aren't funny

I can't think of any famous women I find hilarious. Men I can think of alot. I have comedians come to campus all the time. The dudes are funny, the women aren't. Women aren't funny whatsoever. I think its because theyre trying to hard to be like men the whole time. I saw an SNL special Sunday night and it talked about how John Belushi always wanted to fire all the women because they werent funny.
 

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^The blonde ***** some SNL is funny..
 
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