"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Newbie Mission for Shy Guy

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Hey all you DJs I have been lurking here on Don Juan for quite a few months and studying other DYD stuff and some other Gunwitch and Tyler Durden stuff.

Today I made my first mall approach mission. First I had to make eye contact with 20 attractive women. Next I said hi to 20 attractive women.

This was done at the Shopping Mall over about 3 Hours as I did some christmas shopping as well.

Heres a field report:

Well making eye contact wasn't so bad, but I noticed a lot of girls would make the eye contact then look away right away or else they would make eye contact then give me a confused look. It was hard making EC with a lot of girls because a lot simply would just walk by and not look at me.

For saying hi, I did it to 20 girls. I would say Hi then smile or wait for them to break a smile and then i'd smile back and say hi. I got quite a few smiles from girls which was nice. BUT a lot of girls gave me weird looks when i said HI. They gave me looks like "what are you looking at" or it seemed like they thought i was trying to hit on them or something :confused: anyways i don't know if it's just because they are unfriendly or what. I said Hi to this one HB9.5 and she just looked at me kind of annoyed/angrily.....

So I guess my newbie shy mission at the mall went ALRIGHT in the end... i felt good doing it though. I also had a couple conversations with girls who were working at stores.... these were very brief and mainly had to do with clothes. I even asked one HB working "I have a friend who is looking to buy jeans for his girl friend. would it be better to buy a girl jeans that were a size too big or a size too small" (i got that from some mASF archive).

Anyways I would really appreciate some input and maybe recommendations on what you think i did right or wrong. Anyone have any other newbie missions that I could do??

Thanks,,

Petein
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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when conversating. try comming up with funny and clever comments on the spot. Kinda like how james bond would do.

tylerdurden and gunwitch stuff is mostly garbage.

youd be better off just reading this.
http://www.sirc.org/publik/flirt.html
 

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Originally posted by dementia
Nice man. Bad luck you got all the snobby b*tches.

I didnt actually do the hi thing. I think its dumb if you just do it randomly without any signal.

What i did do is make convos with shop attendants and also hairdressers and waitresses. Youll notice also that by doing this you are kinda jumping forward past the "hi stage"

Ok i know its not actually making a conversation from a cold approach, but its still more than a hi and you are building your skills more. Hell, and i dont know about where you live but where i live ALL THE HOTTEST GIRLS are working in the clothes stores, not walking around shopping. Just something ive noticed.
I tried doing this too, being more social, more outgoing, more talkative..
But often I just can't think of anything to say or talk about :S
Even when my own sister visits here, I don't have much to say..
 

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Props Petein, welcome to the board. Just remember if a girl is stuck up its her problem not yours. Its generally recommended to read the DJ bible and do the Don Juan Bootcamp if you're new to the site. Here's the link:Click What you're doing is also good but this will give you some structure. Keep up the good work and keep us posted.:woo:
 

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Thanks for all the advice guys. I think that flirting article is great.

Also I will look into the DJ Bible and do those missions as well.

Thanks

Petein
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Originally posted by bossdog

tylerdurden and gunwitch stuff is mostly garbage.

youd be better off just reading this.
http://www.sirc.org/publik/flirt.html
lmao don't let this guy turn you away from good material. TD's post are pretty good and his cold approaching is solid. Gunwitch method is another good guy, i like his natural game that he talks bout. I usually use GWM endgame. Don't try to knock down people who are considered one of the so called "gurus" of seduction.

Side note: I'm going to read that article in that link seems like it has alittle new things i could probably add i skimmed through the conversation part don't look too good but i'm a open minded guy and willing to see what that article is about
 

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Originally posted by Distant Light
lmao don't let this guy turn you away from good material. TD's post are pretty good and his cold approaching is solid. Gunwitch method is another good guy, i like his natural game that he talks bout. I usually use GWM endgame. Don't try to knock down people who are considered one of the so called "gurus" of seduction.

Side note: I'm going to read that article in that link seems like it has alittle new things i could probably add i skimmed through the conversation part don't look too good but i'm a open minded guy and willing to see what that article is about
Ok i see your an open minded guy so thats good. read my post carefully and realize that i know wtf im tallkin bout.

Notice u skip right to the conversation part. You and a lot of other guys are way too worried about what you are saying with your mouth. Go back and read the WHOLE article. Its was put to gether by a scientific foundation. its based on scientific reports done by socialogists and psychologists. Its not anybody's opinion. Its research put together and presented.

Who do you think knows more about this ****. Scientists or Internet "seduction gurus".

Tyler durden and gunwitch stuff is garbage. Period. Dont waste your time.
Seduction gurus lol. I wasted months reading that ****.
 

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Well then if i was these scientist most likely i'd be getting laid a whole lot. Ok they study it so... On flipside TD Gunwitch there not scientist but if there sh!t was garbage thousands of people wouldn't be doing it and getting laid. Don't worry i'll read all that this week and make a post on what i think. But to say TD and all those other guys are garbage is like disrespecting all the guys who get laid because of the material they put out. Then again you think what you want.

Distant Out!
 
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