"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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rkthrills80

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First I live in Orange County, CA....there's no lack of hot girls..anyways here's the story...

I was in line at my admissions and records office at my college, there was a cute girl behind me and I starting small talking with her about how the line is as least better than the one at the DMV...blah...blah...there was then a moment of silence and then she introduced herself to me. We talked about majors and stuff, so I asked her out to coffee at starbucks, and I got her number. This was a friday! I called the Sunday of that week and left a voice mail..."Hey Kate! It's the guy you met in the admissions line the other day, call me when you get this, later"

She called back on Wednesday of that next week, I maybe talked to her for 10 minutes to set up a coffee date that same night. I met up with her around 7:30 and I only planned to stay there for an hour. We had so much in common it was amazing. Finally at 11:30 I called it quits cuz i had to go to work in 4 hours. During the coffee date I set up the second date for that Saturday. And I made it firm! I didn't call her or text her the rest of the week until Saturday at 9:30am. I asked about her week and her classes and stuff, and then he asks if we were still on for lunch. I said "yeah I think so, around 12 right?" I picked her up at her apartments and we went to Huntington Beach for some mexican food. The entire way there we talked about almost everything except past relationships, sex, religion, and politics. After lunch we walked out the the pier. On the peir I told her a story about my surfing adventure and then I related it to her kart racing experiences and then kissing someone for the first time...then I kissed her. Nothing spectacular, but not a bad first kiss. Then we walked down by the ocean, no kino or anything...when we got to the spot where my car was parked, she said, "is there anywhere to sit?" "I said how about in the water!" and I picked her up and started walking to the water, she kinda freaked out, but not in a bad way. I initaited anther kiss, we made out for 10 seconds at the most. We walked back to my car...again not kino from me or her. I drove her home..we talked the entire way, when I got her to her place, I kissed her good bye.

THAT WAS IT!!!!! There was no indication from her that I came on too strong, or not enough. I called her the next day by accident cuz I thought she called me Saturday night to invite me to hangout with her and friends for dinner on sunday....it turned out it was my friend Connie who called me from her house phone (which isn't stored in my cell phone) She sounded exactly like Kate becuae I was at a basketball game and I couldn't hear clearly. Anyways Kate didn't anwser her phone so I left a message. She didn't call back...I called her again on friday that next week...no answern and i left a message. Thats where I'm at.

My possible conclusions:

1. My phone call on Sunday was intrepreted as being needy/disperate whcih could have been a deal breaker.

2. I was too open with myself and she heard something that I said that was a deal breaker/turn-off.

Honestly I didn't know and it would be nice to hear her opinion of me so I can better myself.

There's two sides to this equation....me on one side and some girl on the other. Now there's no way to control the factors of the girl on the other side. However I want myself to be consistent, do the same thing everytime no matter what the girls thinks and only do what works for me. Basically I've read all of stuff from this site and others...but there's NO ONE TO COACH ME TO POINT OUT WHAT I"M DOING RIGHT OR WRONG!

I'm tired of wasting my time, money and energy on girls that have a chance of flaking out. This is how i want to work it...I meet a girl and I ask her out for coffee...(I'm doing coffee because all summer I went out with 10 girls and spent an average of $40.00 per date and got no where) I will use stories, kino, and cold reading to establish a connection. After the coffee date i will attempt to kiss her. If she dosn't go for it than that it! NEXT! If i do kiss her that it on. I wait 3 days to call her, but not on a weekend! I'll invite her over to my house for dinner and a movie. If sex happens great its a bonus, but I'm not going to expect it, however I will make every move until she stays stop. After that date again I'll call her every 2-3 days, but not a weekend and only 1 date per week and only during the weekdays...I'm do busy surfing or hanging with frineds. No more playing it safe with these chicks....as far as I'm concern these girls have to prove that they are cool.

If anyone has any insight please speak now or forever hold your peace...lol my sister got married a few months ago haha!!!!
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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You are treating your dates too systematically...

"I call at 2 30, then text them at 3 00... then masturbate until 5 40"

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Now about your situation, the best bet is to let females be females. They are creatures of unspeakable mystery and do things for sometimes no reason at all, trying to figure that reason out will leave you dumb and crazy, trust me...

Live your life and if she wants to be apart of it, she has your number. You're not doing ANYTHING wrong (from what i can see anyway), girls are just foolish little oppossoums sometimes, roll with the punches. Take the time to chill with other females until this one gets in contact with you, don't call anymore.

Also don't blame a girls wierdness on little events that have no effect on anything, so u called her and left a message when u thought she called. That's throwing a pebble at a speeding train expecting it to stop, if she likes you you'd have to do MUCH more to ruin things... I used to do this, i'd blame myself for females naturally wierd nature... not my fault they are wierd, and its not yours either....

Look at it this way, if a girl you really liked called you within 1 hour of first meeting you, then called you later on that night, would you mind ?? Of course not, it'd take many many many more phonecalls before you'd get turned off and think she was annoying....


-Cod3r
 

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sounds like a good practice run... keep up the good work... master it and then start on your natural game...

theres nothing else to do on these forums but analyse, so whats the big deal...
 

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Yeah

Yeah my approach is a little structured, however from my point of view when I'm out with girls conversations, actions, and even locations of dates are random at best. It hard to tell what works and what doesn't. Is talking about some certain subject a complete waste of time. I have a few friends who are naturals and they follow a structure usaully to the T. Yeah there are some changes sometimes. Here's the best analogy I think that applies to what I'm talking about.

Think of it as fishing on a lake...two years ago I was sitting in a boat with no rod, no bait/lures, and no net. Everyone else around me were catching fish, but I was lacking the necessary tools (social skills). I realized the problem so I paddled my way back to shore got myself as many rods and I could get my hands on, grabbed every bait on the rack, and a few nets cuz I thought I was going to catch every fish in the lake.

Now that I got my boat loaded with all this fishing tackle I was ready to catch me some quality fish. First I'd try one rod with one type of bait, no bite, than another bait, and another. I might get a nibble (girl's number) One might even take the bait and get hooked, but than I'd loose it when it came time to reel it in, or my net would break. So I'm here in my boat with loads of tackle and yet getting nowhere. So here's my change I'm going back into shore and getting myself the best rod I can find, ask my friends which bait gets the best fish, and get a net that will never fail. You guys think I'm crazy...buts girls as mysterious as they are have a specific bait there are attracted to, and they aren't fooled by those bull**** lures either. Yeah there might be some girls out there who might not like my bait, but my bait is going to be so good that the majority of prize winners won't be able to resist it. With structure I will be able to turn the randomness of my game into something solid, something natural, like the bait the those guys who always have a girlfriend. Screw that looking for a needle in a hay stack BS, I'm going to get my leaf blower!!!
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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no kino and too much talking? also if kiss was nothin special, she has no raeson to pursue sexually.......uve been LJBF'ed without her even telling u lol

mistakes:

a)no kino
b)not a great kiss (like it should have been!)
c)talking to much, she prob doesnt see any mystery in u anymore

thats it...the phone calls didnt affect u in any way
 

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^ Yea, if she felt nothing on the kisses, she prolly doesn't want to have sex with you now. And since your next date would be the 3rd date and she feels you would try to push for sex...she is turning you down cuz she don't wanna have sex.

If you didn't leave her wanting more...well, then she don't want more. :D
 
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