New reality: Women are paying to go to single events, men are free - men still not showing up!

[corrector]

Didn't think I'd ever expect to see this development. Looks like there is a wall afterall.

These women expect the six figure, six foot tall, six pack to show up for them?

 

[BaronOfHair]

Yeah, it's easier to stay home in your sweatpants and glued to your keyboard, groaning over all the lucky breaks that never came your way, rather than

-Get up out of your chair

-Shower, shave, throw on deodorant

-Put on fresh clothes

-Stroll on over to one of these gatherings, where men are free, and women are paying

So many modern men refusing to exploit opportunities that've essentially been handed to them on a silver platter, all for the sake of not experiencing what's ultimately bound to be mild discomfort, is less astounding than the sight of so many young women choosing to become OF THOTs in lieu of a regular career

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Yeah, it's easier to stay home in your sweatpants and glued to your keyboard, groaning over all the lucky breaks that never came your way, rather than

-Get up out of your chair

-Shower, shave, throw on deodorant

-Put on fresh clothes

-Stroll on over to one of these gatherings, where men are free, and women are paying

So many modern men refusing to exploit opportunities that've essentially been handed to them on a silver platter, all for the sake of not experiencing what's ultimately bound to be mild discomfort, is less astounding than the sight of so many young women choosing to become OF THOTs in lieu of a regular career

These women are toxic, Baron.

 

[BaronOfHair]

These women are toxic, Baron.

For LTRs? Probably. They're likely ideal for a ONS or a brief fling though. Ergo there's officially NO justification for any fella alive in modern-day America not getting his pipes pumped out, when gals are now pretty much handing out the poonany, no less readily than San Francico hands out dope and syringes to the legion of dope fiends littering their streets

 

[corrector]

For LTRs? Probably. They're likely ideal for a ONS or a brief fling though.

Except, they are not paying $ 100 to go to an event to get a ONS or brief fling.

Guys are not motivated to go even if women are paying $ 100 and guys are free.

Why?

The top-tier guys can use apps and continue to get women without bothering to go to such a place.

The average looking guys you are saying are staying at home and keyboard jokeying are not going to go to such an event to get ignored or rejected either. Apps didn't work for them. If they are lucky enough to land a date it fizzles and doesn't get to a second date. A free event where women are paying sounds like more of the same punishment (ie yet I don't see how...after all they are paying, if I got rejected, at least I didn't lose money on top of that?).

 

[Alvafe]

there is also a fact then most guys are really not willing to go to such loud places just to try to score some desperate woman who want to feel good about herself

 

[BaronOfHair]

@corrector "Except, they are not paying $ 100 to go to an event to get a ONS or brief fling"

Unless you've actually attended a few for yourself, the above assertion is more speculative than The US government and Fox "News" 's insistence that our taking a stupendous wet sh-t all over Iraq prevented more 9/11s

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

I don't see how this is good news. Ever since that matchmaker who quit her job due to attitudes of her typical female clients in 2019 went viral on social media is when I noticed the shift for these events/services. I've only been to one such event, so I'm not much help here. In my experience, they're hosted by matchmaking services and SHOCKINGLY, the only people I really honestly flirted with or advanced on were the single staff ladies for said matchmaking service. These events never appealed to me as I do mostly night game and limited day game.

From the others I was curious about going to that were sanctioned as "singles" events, I stopped after seeing the RSVPs. Mostly on FB events, meetup.com etc there were basically 3 categories in any instance. The three of these categories aren't exclusive to the experiences my buddies have had, but even they said those three were over-represented.

1.) No longer relevant spinsters hoping to find a good looking idiot.
2.) Fat, but effable with beer goggles.
3.) Neither of the above. The exception being well dressed and snobbish/'uppity.'

Pretty much parroting the "Good for ONS, not LTR" argument. I'd say the argument is a valid one. I'd also argue that if it is insanely difficult for anyone to get their feet wet with DJ practice, these events are not a bad idea. Especially if you have a Suave friend who is willing to go with you and kick you in the butt.

 

[Bingo-Player]

in my experiences singles events are usually flooded with 6's and 7's that for whatever reason weren't getting results on the apps

there was a couple of 8's scattered around but you could tell they thought they were too good for it

I had a ridiculous success rate for ONS from these events about 90% of the ones I went too resulted in same night sex again the girls weren't exactly top tier but for plain janes and a night of fun emptying my balls there was nothing I could grumble about

I think if your under 6ft or have a weak online presence you have to be hitting these events , the male competition is usually weak and a bit of charisma / confidence will usually get you laid pretty quickly

I think a lot of these women that go to the events are pretty sex starved and will be up for a ride on the carousel especially if theres alcohol involved

There were two times where I must have had about an hour of conversation with the girls before it was back to their place

Ah good times

 

[jhonny9546]

So many modern men refusing to exploit opportunities that have essentially been handed to them on a silver platter.

It doesn't seem that easy to me. What if there are men who are valuable, have the package, and simply realized they don't want to play?

Would you really go to these events if you were a valuable man?
I doubt it.

You're more focused on your own life, and you prefer meeting people who share your interests.

 

[corrector]

It was not like that before though. In the past, guys used to be the ones paying and women would go into these events for free. Now in 2026 we see there is a roll reversal and women are paying and guys are free, however, guys are still not showing up. Why would you say there is such a role reversal compared to the past if these are great places to meet women then? The only next worst level is to get women to pay even more (ie like $ 200) and start paying men $ 100 cash to show up.

What happened? I thought posters like our late-friend would come and argue that the SMVs of women are through the roof. That a 70 year old woman is better off than a 20 year old decent looking guy in terms of SMV and we are seeing something like this buckle that idea. Anyone wishing to take up our late-friend's mantle and argue that women's SMV's are still sky high and unless you are chad or have the total packagej, etc... you are bascially very low. This is something that either looks like a pendulum shift and SMVs are adjusted.

There is no way you can say a woman's SMV is super-high, no matter what her age and the wall is myth, and an event like this even existing where women are paying $ 100 and guys are going in for free. Something socially has shifted.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@corrector "What if there are men who are valuable, have the package, and simply realized they don't want to play?"

Similar to asking: "What if there are men who could've gone far in the corporate sphere, yet instead chose a career in organized crime?"

If they did, they did. The consequences of our decisions are ultimately on each of us as individuals

 

[The Duke]

It was not like that before though. In the past, guys used to be the ones paying and women would go into these events for free. Now in 2026 we see there is a roll reversal and women are paying and guys are free, however, guys are still not showing up. Why would you say there is such a role reversal compared to the past if these are great places to meet women then? The only next worst level is to get women to pay even more (ie like $ 200) and start paying men $ 100 cash to show up.

What happened? I thought posters like our late-friend would come and argue that the SMVs of women are through the roof. That a 70 year old woman is better off than a 20 year old decent looking guy in terms of SMV and we are seeing something like this buckle that idea. Anyone wishing to take up our late-friend's mantle and argue that women's SMV's are still sky high and unless you are chad or have the total packagej, etc... you are bascially very low. This is something that either looks like a pendulum shift and SMVs are adjusted.

There is no way you can say a woman's SMV is super-high, no matter what her age and the wall is myth, and an event like this even existing where women are paying $ 100 and guys are going in for free. Something socially has shifted.

It's very possible men have decided not to play ball on that type of field. If I remember correctly SW15 had been to a few of these and they were full of less than desirable women. Maybe word finally got out so guys no longer find these situations beneficial.

You could make the claim that OLD is not beneficial for men either. But the difference is OLD is very low effort, attending a dating event takes effort.

Men in Society can only eat so many schitt sandwiches before they give up. Kind of like why marriage rates have declined.

Ive never attended one of these in my life.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@The Duke "Men in Society can only eat so many schitt sandwiches before they give up"

Added complication:

The past decade or so has been one of those strange eras in which labeling every experience we find even mildly disagreeable "a schitt sandwich" has been mistaken for some form of higher wisdom. When our perceptions are THAT gruesomely inconsistent with the facts("98% of existence is, by any objective standard, a mixed bag... Neither notably horrific nor particularly sublime"), it's easy to rationalize retreating from public life

I've attended a few speed dating events, albeit the most recent one being a little over a decade ago... I found them to be the equivalent of dining at Sizzlers, rather than Denny's

 

[Dash Riprock]

Yeah, it's easier to stay home in your sweatpants and glued to your keyboard, groaning over all the lucky breaks that never came your way, rather than

-Get up out of your chair

-Shower, shave, throw on deodorant

-Put on fresh clothes

-Stroll on over to one of these gatherings, where men are free, and women are paying

So many modern men refusing to exploit opportunities that've essentially been handed to them on a silver platter, all for the sake of not experiencing what's ultimately bound to be mild discomfort, is less astounding than the sight of so many young women choosing to become OF THOTs in lieu of a regular career

Agreed, but I think it's more of a testament to the fact that most men (me included) don't think the "effort," as minimal as it seems, would be remotely worth it.

Upon arriving at said event, things women WILL NOT check at the door:

- Unrealistic expectations
- Unrealistic standards
- Tendency towards micro and macro cheating while in a "committed" relationship
- Social media addiction including likes, clicks, views, simp comments, etc.
- Their attachment to exes and other male "friends" they hang out with on the regular
- Their current dating app(s)
- Attitude that one disagreement or argument means "it's not working" so it's ok to ghost, dash, and start swiping again

I think the bigger question is why would any guy attend one of these events knowing the above is true?

Just my take.

~Dash

 

[corrector]

@corrector "What if there are men who are valuable, have the package, and simply realized they don't want to play?"

Similar to asking: "What if there are men who could've gone far in the corporate sphere, yet instead chose a career in organized crime?"

If they did, they did. The consequences of our decisions are ultimately on each of us as individuals

he he, I didn't say that. You meant to reply to @jhonny9546

 

[corrector]

It's very possible men have decided not to play ball on that type of field. If I remember correctly SW15 had been to a few of these and they were full of less than desirable women. Maybe word finally got out so guys no longer find these situations beneficial.

You could make the claim that OLD is not beneficial for men either. But the difference is OLD is very low effort, attending a dating event takes effort.

Men in Society can only eat so many schitt sandwiches before they give up. Kind of like why marriage rates have declined.

Ive never attended one of these in my life.

What SW15 said about OLD is the vast majority of guys are pvssy beggars. It's low effort in OLD for women to get results, most guys using OLD fail to get any matches at all or just experience an ego-busting experience and give up. Women are more likely insols (ie the guys they want pump and dump them but make them feel there could be something more so they go along with them) and end up with noone.

I would like to see how you would argue that OLD is not beneficial for top-tier guys who would otherwise do well in these types of socials?

The argument is, top-tier guys do better than women in OLD, so the effort to go to such places is unnecessary to them even if they paid them to go. For average guys who already have their egos put through the cleaners by the bad behaviour and feeling invisible in general to women, have just given up and don't care. They would see an event like that as another nail in the coffin of inceldom and can't bother.

Now, if I were talking to AI and making these arguments, it would argue that life rarely works in absolutes and this is just old repackaged internet logic. After all, we know Better Bachelor will appeal to a a nitche audience for likes and views, most people on here don't tend to resonate with whatever he is saying. But still, an event like that even existing, challenges my understanding of SMVs of women. How can you have theoretically sky-high SMV and pay money for an event where guys are free? It's like imagining Chad visiting escorts because he feel he won't get laid otherwise. Doesn't compute.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@Dash Riprock "Agreed, but I think it's more of a testament to the fact that most men (me included) don't think the "effort," as minimal as it seems, would be remotely worth it"

Yeah, I've never personally found singles mixers or the like especially satisfying either. Like employment in fast food or day laboring though, it's out there, if a fella needs something to tide him over

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

I actually had a free ticket to one of these in December in London. I attended for just over an hour as I had a Hinge date after. When I first joined the event there were far more men than women but the ratio seemed to even out a bit as it went on but I was quite surprised by the early ratio given what I've been seeing online about men not attending these types of events, but maybe they were freebies too.

These types of events will never attract great women. You've got to ask why a woman with all of the options that they have in the current dating market can't make the apps work for them. Usually they're completely delusional with utterly absurd expectations and so attend these events.

At least apps are low effort.

 

[Hal9000]

The women who go to these things are surrounded by men in their daily lives and have online dating profiles on half a dozen sites yet they are so insufferable that they are paying money to try to meet men in this environment. That should tell you everything you need to know about the these folks. If you wanna go and tell them what they want to hear by pretending to be a leftist weirdo to get in their pants then you've probably got a shot at it being worth your time, but otherwise you're better off doing just about anything else instead.