Starkwell
Don Juan
This guy is too obsessed with pof. Can't wait for the New Year's Eve version LOL. This will get old fast when chicks get the same copy and paste from all these AFC guys.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Not too sure about that but the dude that works at the Dairy Queen is a 40 something year old virgin so age doesnt make any difference in experience.Gray The Prince said:Naughty Ninja threads are always worth reading. Plus he's old enough to be my dad which = plenty of exp.
Bunch of made up nonsense.rascal99v said:Tried this sending this to 30 girls. It was an epic fail. Got met with 9 rude and unhappy responses. I dont think girls like random guys saying stuff like that to them in an opener.
"I got this same c&p from 5 guys already....LAME"
"Discusting. I COME ONLINE TO READ THIS BULL**** FROM 60 GUYS WHO ASK IF IM DTF, GIVE BLOWJ0BS, OR SPANK ME. READ MY PROFILE. IT CLEARLY SAYS IM NOT DTF OR HAVE SEX WITH RANDOM GUYS."
"Dude...you are trying way too hard to get responses from girls. Just a little tip for you in the future. Girls don't respond too kindly when perverts ask to spank them in a first message. F*CK Y0U"
"Is this the best you can come up with? You should get a kick in the ass for being jerk."
" I would of been nice and chatted with you if you weren't a rude pos. Forget It now."
"haha. You are not the first guy to send me this. Be more origninal next time."
What an A**HOLE. NO YOU will not!!! IN Fact IM BLOCKING YOU."
"Not a very nice way for a guy to open up a conversation." It is very rude and disrespectful to women. Your mother taught you poor manners on how to treat a lady."
All you guys are all the same on here. Just a bunch of pervs trying to hook up. I'm getting sick of idiots like you. F*** Off
There you have it. any more suggestions?
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Starkwell said:This guy is too obsessed with pof. Can't wait for the New Year's Eve version LOL. This will get old fast when chicks get the same copy and paste from all these AFC guys.
bukowski_merit said:So... Since an update was requested: She drove a hour to my house to see me. Paid the $5 toll.... WE drank some, and then I fvcked her, and it was ok sex. She woke me up at 3:30am to say she had to go home. Don't know what the excuse was but it was bullsh!t.... I didn't care; just made me not have to come up with a reason she couldn't stay saturday morning....
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As far as the assumption that I only got good responses - that's hardly the truth... I send this to about 15 girls.... out of the ones who read it (9 of them).... 2 didn't respond. 3 tried to shame me or act like i was being weird.... 3 of them played with it some but were boring ... the one i vibed with - i fvcked a few hours later...
That's the name of the game... Finding the one who'll play along and taking it all the way home.
AAAgent said:I don't understand how you guys are all willing to follow what this guy says. You know he has admitted that he hasn't been able to get lays at all. I'm not saying his stuff doesn't work, since i haven't tried it but most people would like to take advice from a reputable source.
taking advice from this guy is like taking advice from a person who's never won a race telling you how to train to win one.
AAAgent said:I don't understand how you guys are all willing to follow what this guy says. You know he has admitted that he hasn't been able to get lays at all. I'm not saying his stuff doesn't work, since i haven't tried it but most people would like to take advice from a reputable source.
taking advice from this guy is like taking advice from a person who's never won a race telling you how to train to win one.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
bukowski_merit said:Bunch of made up nonsense.
Know how I know? Very few women will put in that much work into telling a guy off. To have nearly 33% of your responses do it - is pure fantasy... You might know something like this if you were actually good with women.
462 people have read this thread.... I doubt more than 5% of those people tried that opener. That's 23 people. The chances that a woman had one of those people message them (yet alone 2 women, yet alone "5 different guys!") is about the same as you not being a new account just to troll someone.
You didn't get one positive response.... Which is nearly impossible for any opener you send to 30 women.... You're going to hit at least a few bored women who will play along.
bukowski_merit said:Bunch of made up nonsense.
Know how I know? Very few women will put in that much work into telling a guy off. To have nearly 33% of your responses do it - is pure fantasy... You might know something like this if you were actually good with women.
462 people have read this thread.... I doubt more than 5% of those people tried that opener. That's 23 people. The chances that a woman had one of those people message them (yet alone 2 women, yet alone "5 different guys!") is about the same as you not being a new account just to troll someone.
You didn't get one positive response.... Which is nearly impossible for any opener you send to 30 women.... You're going to hit at least a few bored women who will play along.
bukowski_merit said:Bunch of made up nonsense.
Know how I know? Very few women will put in that much work into telling a guy off. To have nearly 33% of your responses do it - is pure fantasy... You might know something like this if you were actually good with women.
462 people have read this thread.... I doubt more than 5% of those people tried that opener. That's 23 people. The chances that a woman had one of those people message them (yet alone 2 women, yet alone "5 different guys!") is about the same as you not being a new account just to troll someone.
You didn't get one positive response.... Which is nearly impossible for any opener you send to 30 women.... You're going to hit at least a few bored women who will play along.
rascal99v said:unbelievable. want to see my account? I hardly had any women to write to me when I was trying to be funny. only when I was rude or used this opener did they write back. they weren't good responses so it didnt do me any good. one girl said i was naughty and hasnt wrote back to me yet.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Packers2010 said:ninja..
i don't know what to make of this message.
i have a date set up on Wednesday ( will probs flake) becuse of this message.
but other then that. it's NOT working for me at all.
i though it would be funny to take a picture of my beard and me in a santa hat. so i put that up as my profile picture and send the message out.
the ONLY message i got was a
" go fook yourself your an ugly piece of ****"
she sent that then blocked me, becuse i could reply to the message.
soooo.. i i'm not sure why it's not working. it's either because of the girls in my area. or the fact it's TOO sexual and because i'm not in the 1% of looks, so it doesn't work.
but whatever. i don't really care. most of the girls are scrubs anyway. i mean.. there not median with these girls. you can't say. " hey whats up" cos that gets no reply. but i send your C&P message and all i get is abuse.
pretty bull**** if you ask me
Seems like you can say whatever the hell you want to them, as long as you look good.Naughty Ninja said:- It depends on how good you look to them in your pictures. Shirtless and aesthetic/cut up DO work better.
- The main thing is how good you look.
- You can depending on how good you look also get TONS of nudes, sex chat on the phone etc.
- Dudes who area sucks and look good in pics can get some vacation freaks to meet and play with.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.