Starkwell
Don Juan
This guy is too obsessed with pof. Can't wait for the New Year's Eve version LOL. This will get old fast when chicks get the same copy and paste from all these AFC guys.
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Not too sure about that but the dude that works at the Dairy Queen is a 40 something year old virgin so age doesnt make any difference in experience.Gray The Prince said:Naughty Ninja threads are always worth reading. Plus he's old enough to be my dad which = plenty of exp.
Bunch of made up nonsense.rascal99v said:Tried this sending this to 30 girls. It was an epic fail. Got met with 9 rude and unhappy responses. I dont think girls like random guys saying stuff like that to them in an opener.
"I got this same c&p from 5 guys already....LAME"
"Discusting. I COME ONLINE TO READ THIS BULL**** FROM 60 GUYS WHO ASK IF IM DTF, GIVE BLOWJ0BS, OR SPANK ME. READ MY PROFILE. IT CLEARLY SAYS IM NOT DTF OR HAVE SEX WITH RANDOM GUYS."
"Dude...you are trying way too hard to get responses from girls. Just a little tip for you in the future. Girls don't respond too kindly when perverts ask to spank them in a first message. F*CK Y0U"
"Is this the best you can come up with? You should get a kick in the ass for being jerk."
" I would of been nice and chatted with you if you weren't a rude pos. Forget It now."
"haha. You are not the first guy to send me this. Be more origninal next time."
What an A**HOLE. NO YOU will not!!! IN Fact IM BLOCKING YOU."
"Not a very nice way for a guy to open up a conversation." It is very rude and disrespectful to women. Your mother taught you poor manners on how to treat a lady."
All you guys are all the same on here. Just a bunch of pervs trying to hook up. I'm getting sick of idiots like you. F*** Off
There you have it. any more suggestions?
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Starkwell said:This guy is too obsessed with pof. Can't wait for the New Year's Eve version LOL. This will get old fast when chicks get the same copy and paste from all these AFC guys.
bukowski_merit said:So... Since an update was requested: She drove a hour to my house to see me. Paid the $5 toll.... WE drank some, and then I fvcked her, and it was ok sex. She woke me up at 3:30am to say she had to go home. Don't know what the excuse was but it was bullsh!t.... I didn't care; just made me not have to come up with a reason she couldn't stay saturday morning....
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As far as the assumption that I only got good responses - that's hardly the truth... I send this to about 15 girls.... out of the ones who read it (9 of them).... 2 didn't respond. 3 tried to shame me or act like i was being weird.... 3 of them played with it some but were boring ... the one i vibed with - i fvcked a few hours later...
That's the name of the game... Finding the one who'll play along and taking it all the way home.
AAAgent said:I don't understand how you guys are all willing to follow what this guy says. You know he has admitted that he hasn't been able to get lays at all. I'm not saying his stuff doesn't work, since i haven't tried it but most people would like to take advice from a reputable source.
taking advice from this guy is like taking advice from a person who's never won a race telling you how to train to win one.
AAAgent said:I don't understand how you guys are all willing to follow what this guy says. You know he has admitted that he hasn't been able to get lays at all. I'm not saying his stuff doesn't work, since i haven't tried it but most people would like to take advice from a reputable source.
taking advice from this guy is like taking advice from a person who's never won a race telling you how to train to win one.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
bukowski_merit said:Bunch of made up nonsense.
Know how I know? Very few women will put in that much work into telling a guy off. To have nearly 33% of your responses do it - is pure fantasy... You might know something like this if you were actually good with women.
462 people have read this thread.... I doubt more than 5% of those people tried that opener. That's 23 people. The chances that a woman had one of those people message them (yet alone 2 women, yet alone "5 different guys!") is about the same as you not being a new account just to troll someone.
You didn't get one positive response.... Which is nearly impossible for any opener you send to 30 women.... You're going to hit at least a few bored women who will play along.
bukowski_merit said:Bunch of made up nonsense.
Know how I know? Very few women will put in that much work into telling a guy off. To have nearly 33% of your responses do it - is pure fantasy... You might know something like this if you were actually good with women.
462 people have read this thread.... I doubt more than 5% of those people tried that opener. That's 23 people. The chances that a woman had one of those people message them (yet alone 2 women, yet alone "5 different guys!") is about the same as you not being a new account just to troll someone.
You didn't get one positive response.... Which is nearly impossible for any opener you send to 30 women.... You're going to hit at least a few bored women who will play along.
bukowski_merit said:Bunch of made up nonsense.
Know how I know? Very few women will put in that much work into telling a guy off. To have nearly 33% of your responses do it - is pure fantasy... You might know something like this if you were actually good with women.
462 people have read this thread.... I doubt more than 5% of those people tried that opener. That's 23 people. The chances that a woman had one of those people message them (yet alone 2 women, yet alone "5 different guys!") is about the same as you not being a new account just to troll someone.
You didn't get one positive response.... Which is nearly impossible for any opener you send to 30 women.... You're going to hit at least a few bored women who will play along.
rascal99v said:unbelievable. want to see my account? I hardly had any women to write to me when I was trying to be funny. only when I was rude or used this opener did they write back. they weren't good responses so it didnt do me any good. one girl said i was naughty and hasnt wrote back to me yet.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Packers2010 said:ninja..
i don't know what to make of this message.
i have a date set up on Wednesday ( will probs flake) becuse of this message.
but other then that. it's NOT working for me at all.
i though it would be funny to take a picture of my beard and me in a santa hat. so i put that up as my profile picture and send the message out.
the ONLY message i got was a
" go fook yourself your an ugly piece of ****"
she sent that then blocked me, becuse i could reply to the message.
soooo.. i i'm not sure why it's not working. it's either because of the girls in my area. or the fact it's TOO sexual and because i'm not in the 1% of looks, so it doesn't work.
but whatever. i don't really care. most of the girls are scrubs anyway. i mean.. there not median with these girls. you can't say. " hey whats up" cos that gets no reply. but i send your C&P message and all i get is abuse.
pretty bull**** if you ask me
Seems like you can say whatever the hell you want to them, as long as you look good.Naughty Ninja said:- It depends on how good you look to them in your pictures. Shirtless and aesthetic/cut up DO work better.
- The main thing is how good you look.
- You can depending on how good you look also get TONS of nudes, sex chat on the phone etc.
- Dudes who area sucks and look good in pics can get some vacation freaks to meet and play with.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.