"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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New plate, contacts me asks me for a ride, tell her take bus.

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AJ84

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I'm aware of that. I have a pretty good sense of when women want to fvck. They're extremely subtle about it.



I didn't learn anything here. Just tell her to find a ride somewhere else and fvck her again if she comes back. If not, delete the number and find a woman who's considerate. There's no point in trying to read into an inconsiderate line of text. When you get the line "I need a favor" from a woman you're not in a relationship with, it generally involves getting something shoved up your ass instead of shoving your d1ck into her ass.
Learning at what point to unclench, remove the armour and do a favour for a girl you are sleeping with where you don't feel like you lost some frame. Not everything is about losing something by doing something nice for another person.

And again, if he really doesn't want to he can make an excuse that's not off putting to her. There are ways to get out of doing stuff he doesn't want to do without pissing off the other person.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Why are you so adamant on this guy randomly driving his plate around for? :D

It sucks and he doesn't want to do it.
I think the bigger issue is becoming overly zealous about “maintaining frame” and subsequently 1. missing what I think was a fairly clear hint from the girl that she was looking to sleep with him 2. responding like an angry human being who treats people interested in him like trash.

Someone who is truly self confident and emotionally independent would have seen that hint or at least denied the request in a moderate way.
 

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It's ultimately ur call since u r in a better position 2 assuage her reasoning couple with her past character, ie she was using u 2 often etc, then u r perfectly correct to tell her to take the bus.

I suspect you got irritated since she has gotten used 2 u being nice to her.

If that's is the case; good job !

And if that's not the case then u just lost a plate by not handling it more diplomatically.
 
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Why are you so adamant on this guy randomly driving his plate around for? :D

It sucks and he doesn't want to do it.
I'm not haha. I actually suggested in my responses that there are better ways to say no. No one wants to be a taxis service of course and I'm not suggesting that. But if he chooses do a favour to her it's not like he lost something and the key here is what he chooses do to or not do and how he communicates that in a way that still gets him what he wants.
 

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I think the bigger issue is becoming overly zealous about “maintaining frame” and subsequently 1. missing what I think was a fairly clear hint from the girl that she was looking to sleep with him 2. responding like an angry human being who treats people interested in him like trash.

Someone who is truly self confident and emotionally independent would have seen that hint or at least denied the request in a moderate way.
This right here! What I meant to say, but have trouble getting into words, lol
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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And again, if he really doesn't want to he can make an excuse that's not off putting to her. There are ways to get out of doing stuff he doesn't want to do without pissing off the other person.
So should he keep this chick around if he's fvcking two other women on the side? The point comes down to the value of sex vs the value of putting up with bull5hit that may or may not result in getting sex.

If I were to choose, I would just delete the bytch's number.
 

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Maybe I sound soft, but in this case I would have picked her up. She's sleeping with you for goodness sake, giving her a hand as a one off with 15-20 mins of driving is reasonable IMO.

If she asked a second time a week later, yeah, I would have been more harsh. Or if she's just taking advantage and doesn't need it. But asking for a "big favour" rather than "ride now plz lol" means she knows she's inconveniencing you and would appreciate your help.

And if you're not going to give her the lift, at least don't be a d*ck about it. Be courteous and polite, like the decent man you are.

I gave my ex a couple of lifts and as payment I got some make outs there and then and the offer of a BJ next time we were alone. It's not like girls that care about you don't reciprocate if you genuinely helped them out.
 
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So should he keep this chick around if he's fvcking two other women on the side? The point comes down to the value of sex vs the value of putting up with bull5hit that may or may not result in getting sex.

If I were to choose, I would just delete the bytch's number.
I'm not saying he has to keep her. I'm not saying he has to put up with bs, I'm not saying he has to drive her anywhere. I'm not sure where you are coming from here Des, but it seems like you are focusing on one or two things that I posted and are coming at me with that without considering the whole post.

I said in one of my first posts that if he has other plates going this probably doesn't matter anyway. I also said he could of said no in another way if he wanted to. Meaning if he actually wants to keep her around.
He's the one who is questioning if his response was too harsh. To me, that implies that he doesn't feel 100% justified in responding the way he did. If he has no problem deleting the bit*hes number then he would do just that and not ponder over the whole thing online.
 
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