New Openers

[corrector]

Opener#1) Do you consider yourself a good person?

Opener: #2) Do you believe in the afterlife?

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Saw a nice cashier but shyed out of asking her those questions to start a conversation on where they really stand with God and hopefully get a friend in the process.

It goes to show that even a religious opener is hard to do because it feels like you are putting someone on the spot. How do you overcome your shyness with your openers, especially when dealing with cashiers? Are these openers too bold for flirting?

Perhaps I should practise this outloud a few times. This opener was learned from Ray Comfort.

 

[Stanley]

If a complete stranger came up to me cold and asked me either of those questions I would just stare in bewilderment.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Opener#1) Do you consider yourself a good person?

Opener: #2) Do you believe in the afterlife?

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Saw a nice cashier but shyed out of asking her those questions to start a conversation on where they really stand with God and hopefully get a friend in the process.

It goes to show that even a religious opener is hard to do because it feels like you are putting someone on the spot. How do you overcome your shyness with your openers, especially when dealing with cashiers? Are these openers too bold for flirting?

Perhaps I should practise this outloud a few times. This opener was learned from Ray Comfort.

Opener #3 - do you know the difference between the advesarial Sumerian gods "Enlil" and "Enki" and how they are both depicted as "God" in the Old Testament?

 

[EyeBRollin]

Do not use these openers.

 

[Xenom0rph]

The first question might offend her. And the 2nd question is too heavy a topic.

When trying to chat up strangers it's best to keep the conversation short, light-hearted, friendly and non-controversial.

 

[Gamisch]

Opener#1) Do you consider yourself a good person?

Opener: #2) Do you believe in the afterlife?

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Saw a nice cashier but shyed out of asking her those questions to start a conversation on where they really stand with God and hopefully get a friend in the process.

It goes to show that even a religious opener is hard to do because it feels like you are putting someone on the spot. How do you overcome your shyness with your openers, especially when dealing with cashiers? Are these openers too bold for flirting?

Perhaps I should practise this outloud a few times. This opener was learned from Ray Comfort.

Great to see you are back in hunting mode. I would go easy on topics that go that deep. Keep it nice and easy, gauge interest by asking what's she's up to ( she'll know where you're going). Once you get her number you can gauge her political/religious convictions or denials.

Don't creep them put right away..wait until you got them a little closer..

Opener #3 - do you know the difference between the advesarial Sumerian gods "Enlil" and "Enki" and how they are both depicted as "God" in the Old Testament?

If she says ofcourse I know about the creator of mankind..then you know you've just met your future ex wife!

 

[jaymbrs]

I memorized some fun facts for cold approaching and got some pretty decent results from it. One of them I asked if she knew that Youtube initially started with the intent of being a dating site. This was at a coffee shop while she was looking at youtube clips. She didnt know and we started talking about dating sites, dating in general, etc. etc.

 

[CollegeMan22]

Start off small, especially for daygame. You’re a stranger. Why should she emotionally invest so much into you? She doesn’t know you at all. Asking the first question is like asking someone you’ve talked to once to loan you $500. Not gonna happen.

My favorite opener is just to observe her shirt or sweatshirt. Comment on its design. Comment on the college/location on it. Ask if her favorite band is the band on her shirt. Very simple opener.

As Roosh said: you are a confused old man, just wanting to know more about the world. Oh, interesting shirt — better ask about it! Oh, she’s reading a book — what might it be about? Be a curious old man with balls and you will do well.

 

[corrector]

Start off small, especially for daygame. You’re a stranger. Why should she emotionally invest so much into you? She doesn’t know you at all. Asking the first question is like asking someone you’ve talked to once to loan you $500. Not gonna happen.

My favorite opener is just to observe her shirt or sweatshirt. Comment on its design. Comment on the college/location on it. Ask if her favorite band is the band on her shirt. Very simple opener.

As Roosh said: you are a confused old man, just wanting to know more about the world. Oh, interesting shirt — better ask about it! Oh, she’s reading a book — what might it be about? Be a curious old man with balls and you will do well.

If you look up videos from Ray Comfort (a simple youtube search with his name, or Living Waters channel), you will see that women he talks to are quote receptive with him. He is no chad and is just showing pure confidence. Women are 100% open to this. He has a canned routine that is really effective.

Now I know people might say this religious. You are missing out if you think this. You should just note the confidence and their reaction and take notes.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Those are not questions you randomly walk up to someone and ask unless you want them to think you are a creepy weirdo.

 

[corrector]

Those are not questions you randomly walk up to someone and ask unless you want them to think you are a creepy weirdo.

I agree with the consensus opinion, that this is too much of a bulldozer for an opener, especially if you are interested in the girl, but I would also like to throw a wrench into this common sense argument:

True, but I think we've seen videos of guys approaching women confidently, and either saying nonsence or having an insane request and they got compliance on the spot if it was done in a confident manner. The idea is that if you vibe-off like a creepy wierdo, the words come across lacking confidence, then even if you say the "right" things they will still think that way. Indeed, in some blackpill circles, if you are not attractive enough to her, then you are a creepy weirdo.

I know you are trying to make a point here, and perhaps if you are a chad or chadlite using that strategy, it might raise a question mark in a lady as to what you are coming with and then you'd see it as a loss because with that looks-tier, especiallly chad-lites or upper tier normies, it could be an issue. However, for sub-5s and low & mid-tier normies, you also have the ask, what do you really have to lose? Most women are either not going to feel attracted to you or think you are creepy anyway no matter what comes out of your mouth.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Corrector, how about a church-based opener if it's on a Sunday? (Have you heard about this new church, I'm going to a new church, can you give me directions, etc)

 

[corrector]

There was a book called "How to be the Bad Boy that Women Love" by Ron Louis and and David Copeland. They had some serious crazy openers in that book as part of their strategy. However, according to that book, it normally works in a bar situation. That might be too intense for day-game, especially if dealing with a cashier. But my logic is, if this is where the inner game and confidence is, then anything that you can deliver with confidence, even if it's wacko, is better than anything that doesn't have confidence.

I know there are softer approaches, but I feel it doesn't get my adreline pumping and it could come across as more lame. When the adreline goes up, I feel pumped up and in the moment. If you know you are trying to deliver something over the top, you'll defnitely feel pumped up and relieved once the opportunity passes. But lets try baby-step soft approaches first that don't get the adreline up.