"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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NEW opener for day game (street sarging)

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You: Hi, do you know where the nearest Starbucks is?
Her: blah blah.
You: Oh great, thanks. I keep forgetting directions all the time. You should be my new tour guide.
 
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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i think you are going to need to wear some protectiongear on the nuttsack
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Love it. I'm going to use that.
 

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I've updated the opener, and I think it sounds a lot better now.

As far as random street sarging is concerned, I feel this kind of "ask for directions" opener is always more natural than any canned opinion opener.

you can use an FTC, and throw in any opinion opener as a second routine.
 

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daygameguy said:
You: Hi, do you know where the nearest Starbucks is?
Her: Go there, take a left, blah blah
You: Thanks. I think I've been there once. But I just keep forgetting directions. You could be my tour guide. I think you'd make a brilliant tour guide.
I like the idea of the response in the last line but what is the point of "I think I've been there once". It seems useless and kinda brings to light the canned-ness of the opener. Also "I think you would make a brilliant tour guide" sounds creepy. What is the point of it. I would take the "I think you could be my tour guide" on a different tangent, something comical and role playing but that is just me.


Or you can go another route and follow up with something like:

"As a male I know I am not supposed to do this, it was in the handbook... i really hope they don't revoke my membership"

and then you can discuss gender roles which is an easy segue to sex, you build a lil atttraction and badda bing badda boom
 

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Microphone Fiend said:
I like the idea of the response in the last line but what is the point of "I think I've been there once". It seems useless and kinda brings to light the canned-ness of the opener. Also "I think you would make a brilliant tour guide" sounds creepy. What is the point of it. I would take the "I think you could be my tour guide" on a different tangent, something comical and role playing but that is just me.


Or you can go another route and follow up with something like:

"As a male I know I am not supposed to do this, it was in the handbook... i really hope they don't revoke my membership"

and then you can discuss gender roles which is an easy segue to sex, you build a lil atttraction and badda bing badda boom
ok i simplified it again. tell me if still sounds creepy.. I'd have to drop this opener then.
 

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Sorry crappy logical opener, women are emotional creatures, you need to open with opinions, emotional statements, etc. This opener is pretty stupid.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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OPENER DROPPED.:box:
OPINION openers forever. :up:
 

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Stéphane said:
Sorry crappy logical opener, women are emotional creatures, you need to open with opinions, emotional statements, etc. This opener is pretty stupid.
the opener is just to get your foot in the door and then you can segue into emotions. That is why 'hey' and 'hi' work. They are just something to get the ball rolling
 

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Yeah, but if you start with a logical statement, then you need to follow it with something emotional anyways, might has well just start off strong.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Well like keys on the vip Cajun said:

- Can I ask you something, I won't be too long. (Shows that you won't stick with her all night)
- Do I look like a drug dealer?
- Then she's like no, no I actualy think you look like blah blah
- Well, that's because I had some girls come all over me like sexual, and they were like do you have any weed. (Great story telling shows higher value)
- then blah blah
- omg, your so cute i'm making you my little sister. (neg, compliment, and shows higher value again)
 

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In my opinion, Direct works better in the day compared to all those. And nah, im not talking about "Hi" or "Are you single?"
:p. Course the ones u mentioned about can work fine.
 

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I think indirect works the best, because if you use direct game she might not be attracted to you, or comfortable enough with you, but with indirect game you can get her attracted to you, and more comfortable. The mystery method is basicaly. {Attraction > Comfort > Seduction} > Relationship. There's a reason he's the best PUA.

Direct game, might work in clubs once in a while, but it won't work often in day light. Her social value is at risk.
 

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Stéphane said:
I think indirect works the best, because if you use direct game she might not be attracted to you, or comfortable enough with you, but with indirect game you can get her attracted to you, and more comfortable. The mystery method is basicaly. {Attraction > Comfort > Seduction} > Relationship. There's a reason he's the best PUA.

Direct game, might work in clubs once in a while, but it won't work often in day light. Her social value is at risk.
Have to agree with this.

MM
 

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direct is nice and easy, but once you've showed interest in her, you can't really bust on her with your C&F banter, negs etc
I don't see direct openers working for me.. My friend tried it 3 times.. got rejected with "I'm busy/have a BF" line.

And I don't see how direct openers can be used on Group sets..
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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