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ChrizZ

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DonJoseCantosie said:
Exactly, i find numbers aren't good unless its a last resort. Also...Yes, women ultimately do the choosing in the end. I agree with this 100%...no matter what style of game you do...they still choose in the end. But also remember, u have the power afterward their choice.

About the weak guy comment.....A nerdy, skinny pale guy can still get that girl but its RARE. He just has got to improve his inner game and look. You don't have to look nerdy even if skinny. You can still look like a player. Look at style, mystery, juggler, badboy. They are all skinny but have gotten laid quite a bit. Physique doesn't matter THAT Much. It can help tho.

Ur mentioning hints with eye contact...which i agree....but u haven't mentioned of a girl who HASN'T seen you. Can you physically see everything around you? no. How do you expect them to? They can only see so much.
But i'm mainly talking in situations where a girl is either: A) Moving or B) Shopping. In the clubs, i can see where ur coming from somewhat.

Not all girls courageously will keep eye contact with you. Why else would some when u match it with them.....look away quickly? She obviously doesn't want to be "caught" checking you out. Now if she looks away with disguist i agree...i wouldn't go up to her. But if its neutral and shows no signs of immediate disinterest, why reject urself?

Its like this, when u were younger...u looked at someone for a while...and when they caught u...u immediately looked away. Why? Becuase u felt embarrased that u might've been perceived as staring. Its the same with them. Don't base eye contact on everything. Wait till u go up to her to see the truth.

Lastly about all methods are bull****. I have to disagree. Some of things they say are pointless and unneeded but it really can work if u take the time, effort, and dedication. Maybe its not ur thing, doesn't mean it can't work for someone else.

If you want to just go for the girls that are strongly feeling you and you doubt u'll get rejected, by no means go that....but if u want to also go for the girls u desire seeing and know that rejection may be possible...why not take a shot? Do what u want to, don't be a ***** while at it, keep staying consistent and there you go.
The thing is that those pua idiots sacrifice their whole lives to get pu$$y and play the numbers game. They approach thousands of b!tches and then finally they end up with a hot chick that they take a picture with and show it around the community to make money off of the geeky AFC losers that buy into that dream. Those idiots do nothing but going to clubs 4x a week. They play the numbers game and get rejected way more than they succeed.

Physique matters... a lot!

You can get average and cute chicks with an average physique.

You have to be built and muscular though to get the uber hotties.

Reading the energy level of the people around you is a very important skill.

You have to give the woman something to look at. You will catch her eye then.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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ChrizZ said:
The thing is that those pua idiots sacrifice their whole lives to get pu$$y and play the numbers game. They approach thousands of b!tches and then finally they end up with a hot chick that they take a picture with and show it around the community to make money off of the geeky AFC losers that buy into that dream. Those idiots do nothing but going to clubs 4x a week. They play the numbers game and get rejected way more than they succeed.

Physique matters... a lot!

You can get average and cute chicks with an average physique.

You have to be built and muscular though to get the uber hotties.

Reading the energy level of the people around you is a very important skill.

You have to give the woman something to look at. You will catch her eye then.
Even if we don't agree, it is still a numbers game. Even if a girl gives u eye contact, doesn't guarantee u'll get success. I agree tho in terms of some PUAs claiming they have so much success, but they did get rejected quite a bit before hand. Also, yea...some exaggerate their skill level. But remember though, if its what they want to do...can only criticize so much unless its definitely causes harm(They become social robots, etc). Sometimes u just got to take that KIND of effort to succeed. Its best to feel rejection, so that when it happens in the future...it doesn't affect you. The only flaw of Player Supreme's method is that he preaches that u should try to "avoid" rejection rather than going for the girl with the risk of possibly getting rejected. Its best to know what rejection feels like as then ur confidence is that much greater and ur self asteem won't be affected that much. Nah, im not saying u should "TRY" to get rejected in the game flat out, but i believe its a good idea to not be oblivious to it..as when it happens the first time...u can feel bad but if u get through it...won't affect you.

Physique doesn't matter so much. Sure a good physique HELPS but its not a NECESSITY to get the uber hot girls. Course u don't want to be a fat ass nor anorexic. Don't feel the NEED to have to put on a physique just to have a girl notice you. U don't have to. I believe a majority of the time, a girl regardless of looks, will bang a guy if he's atleast average looking but most guys have the potential to be handsome(even w/o working out..course its a good idea to). Just go to that potential. Just have a cool look about u and the women will indeed look. Just cuz a girl doesn't look at u at first glance doesn't mean she doesn't like u. Remember this. I thought at first if a girl wasn't looking at u, that she didn't like u...but boy was i wrong. Also, forgot to reply to ur commment about not messing up. I agree, the first phase is to not screw up opportunities u already have. That's been my flaw for a while, not screwing up.haha.

Edit: I forgot to mention, i agree about the flaws of the indirect community...too much of a cult following, relying on routines, making it too complicated, going out too much to the point its ridiculous, etc. Its like, why go through so much of this? Seriously? That i'm definitely not fond of. But if its a guy who actually does it right, and doesn't have negative energy, and seems to be more natural...thats the good point.
 

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it's pretty simple really..this is a way to figure out what type of game you should use

Direct Game - is for guys that get checked out a lot..get compliments on how good looking/hot they are, dress well, and are obviously not fat/anorexic.(As long as you have a hot face, being lean is okay, muscular is better) This game is basically saying to the girl "this is me, take it or leave it" no time for showing personality, very efficient and doesnt waste time. Of course not ALL girls will like you. Not ALL girls think Brad Pitt is hot (girls have different tastes), but a lot do, you should know where you stand by now..having a nice face is much more important, but i agree, having a nice bod helps a lot, but what if it's winter and you can't wear your favorite" extra small-look at my biceps/chest bitc-h" t-shirt. catch my drift? I had a friend that didn't have an attractive face, but a built bod, and would always resort to taking his shirt off for no reason at all at parties to get chicks..pretty lame if you ask me

Indirect Game - for guys that are average - slightly above average looking..for the most part, girls wouldn't want to fcuk you at just the very sight of you, but they might start getting attracted to you as time goes on by showing you personality, negging her, being ****y and funny etc Girls build an attraction with you over a couple dates..You get looked at by girls, but don't get that "i want to **** you" or "wow, this guy is banging" look. (puppy dogg looking up at his master look) might get looked at twice sometimes. These guys can get the hot girl if she's a gold digger and wants only your money, or is a sweet, down to earth hottie that enjoys your personality.

This is the truth really, you should know where you stand by now..of course you can always make yourself look better by working out, dressing nice, haircut etc..look at some male models and take notes on hair/clothes/look in general. Most people are shallow and judge you at the very sight of you. It's just the way it is, human instincts.
 

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Good points tear gas, but also remember...most guys can improve their looks to be handsome to where they get complimented. Yet, direct can still work for the average guy. But thats based on how u approach tho most importantly.
 

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DonJoseCantosie said:
Good points tear gas, but also remember...most guys can improve their looks to be handsome to where they get complimented. Yet, direct can still work for the average guy. But thats based on how u approach tho most importantly.
We come from different worlds that's why we don't agree.

My style is pimp game and your style is pick up.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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OHHH! If it pimp game ur talking about...i agree 200%. Yea...definitely best to only go for the female who are feeling you in that case. Ok...now i fully understand what ur saying. :)
 
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