"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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New guy not sure what to do

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First off let me say in this particular relationship I want to have a long term relationship. Im getting a little older and am looking forward to settling down after running amuck for the past 5 years.

So I recently reconnected with a girl from my past who I had a history with years ago. She has been the one i always kicked myself for letting go years before. Things got hot and heavy the first night we hung out and since then they have cooled off quite a bit. Normaly I would cut my losses and just walk away BUT I really like this girl alot. Theres a few pretty back big problems, mainly the fact that while shes separated she's technically still married to her ex while the divorce is finalized and theres kids involved. Basically things were great for the first few weeks but Im pretty sure I broke every rule out there and made myself too needy. Recently I pissed her off for a reason i think is stupid which led to the message - "ill talk to you later. Ineed some time......... I'm still really ****in mad at you"

Its been a few days and ive left her alone, I'm just wondering how to proceed from here. I dont want to give up on this, any thoughts?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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SmoothnNerdy

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Read the no contact challenge!
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=160056

And all the links from the OP. -get an understanding for what happens in a woman's mind when you go NC and STICK WITH IT!

She's pissed right now... If you try to push an apology or start sucking up to her now, my best guess is that she'll lose even more respect and attraction for you.

I've got no wisdom but recently fvct up pushing a girl away, then pushing her even further by sucking up and putting up with poor treatment. I hope you don't make my mistake, and find some more helpful stuff!
 

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Yeah, this one is 101. The harder you try, the harder she pushes away. It's in the bible.

Wait her out. Do something. Have fun. Act like you don't need her, that you're doing awesome. PRETEND if you have to.

That said, she sounds like she has some issues. Never settle.

And as they say on here, and it is really simply, "She should be worried about losing you." Period.

Think about that. Repeat it a million times. When we think that way, things change. One, we don't chase. We're not needy. That right there is a million times more attractive. But it also means that we can just let go of people who suck, or simply may just not want us. Because we are not chasing.

So, texting, no reply, and texting again, for example = no!

Stop thinking, "I'm worried about losing her." She should be wondering if she is going to lose you. She should be wondering if you are thinking about her.

But if you chase, she'll never have to wonder a thing.

So, she should be worried about losing you. Period.
 

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I read throuvh some of the no contact challenge it seems like thats for a LTR that recently ended and it this point I wouldnt classify my situation as that. I guess what I want to know is what do I say when she calls or texts to say she is not upset anymore, what should be my response?
 

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skins7778 said:
First off let me say in this particular relationship I want to have a long term relationship. Im getting a little older and am looking forward to settling down after running amuck for the past 5 years.

So I recently reconnected with a girl from my past who I had a history with years ago. She has been the one i always kicked myself for letting go years before. Things got hot and heavy the first night we hung out and since then they have cooled off quite a bit. Normaly I would cut my losses and just walk away BUT I really like this girl alot. Theres a few pretty back big problems, mainly the fact that while shes separated she's technically still married to her ex while the divorce is finalized and theres kids involved. Basically things were great for the first few weeks but Im pretty sure I broke every rule out there and made myself too needy. Recently I pissed her off for a reason i think is stupid which led to the message - "ill talk to you later. Ineed some time......... I'm still really ****in mad at you"

Its been a few days and ive left her alone, I'm just wondering how to proceed from here. I dont want to give up on this, any thoughts?
yeah that reconnection thing is not a good look except for friendship with benefits... it just has a high failure rate...
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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DonGorgon said:
yeah that reconnection thing is not a good look except for friendship with benefits... it just has a high failure rate...
You might be right here. Years ago when I was in my early 20's I had her eating out of the palm of my hand and broke her heart according to her. Im starting to get the feeling that it might be impossible to live up to her own memoriez of me. I might just need to end this.
 
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