New forum section: the blackpill?

[Modern Man Advice]

I am surprised none of the moderators have shared their opinions. I am all for free speech, but I think that the OP makes a solid argument.

I do think that there should be a black pill/rant section so they can whine and hate all they want.

"Hate, hate, hate!" - Silky Johnson

 

[Gamisch]

I like the black pill theory and discussion that's productive and helpful like the harsh realities of modern dating. We need some people who are focused on things like how to improve your looks and why it's just as important as game or money and status. YouTubers who fit this mold would be Wheat Waffles and Men's Maxxing

However I don't like the bitter keyboard incels who don't go outside, don't work on themselves, don't talk to anyone, but everything is a cope and it's always over for everyone and no girl is hot unless she's Scarlet Johansson.

Yeah, redpill seems to be more about exploiting female nature while blackpill uses it as a..excuse , reasons to stay away from women. Blackp will say there only 2 sips left. Rp will say the same glass is filled for 1/3 and be cool with that.

A RP er will use hypergamy as an advantage, while a BP er will be scared off by it. So interestingly in order to be redpill you must be rather optimistic about women and dating despite all the negativity surrounding it.

Personally I'm a little bit of everything now; bluepilled by heart, blackpill due experiences, and redpill due learning . If you combine this you get a solid purple color...




Any man that's been taken to the " good ol cleaners" as @Giovanni SouthSide said it will eventually devolp blackpill thoughts. And tbh, there's nothing worse than a approx 35 + y.o bluepilled man whose completely oblivious to both red and blackpill. He WIlL eventually end up being either red or blue. If he discovers spaces like this he'll become purple

 

[corrector]

and no girl is hot unless she's Scarlet Johansson.

That is not true.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Do we really need an echo chamber that's just going to consist of sadness and arguments?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Isn't Black Pill just the realization that looks are the most important determinant for dating success?

What leads to romantic attraction: similarity, reciprocity, security, or beauty? Evidence from a speed-dating study - PubMed

Years of attraction research have established several "principles" of attraction with robust evidence. However, a major limitation of previous attraction studies is that they have almost exclusively relied on well-controlled experiments, which are often criticized for lacking ecological...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I imagine there are shades of Black Pill. From those who think looks are the only factor to those (like me) who think it is very important, but many other factors are relevant as well. There is no reason to assume a Black Piller is negative & bitter. I'm pretty positive and happy.

 

[BadBoy89]

They essentially give up on the game and a valuable past of human existence... as a defense mechanism for their flaws. Red pillers understand the dynamics and what makes females work. They continue in the pursuit of finding and maintaining an actual relationship and progressing through life with that person. Black pillers will spend their time looking at porn and visiting escorts...

The issue isn’t Blackpillers not understanding the dynamics and what makes females work. The issue is every Blackpillers wants the hot, young, sexy, fertile girl between 20-29. And those girls want the genetically blessed men, men Blackpillers cant compete with.

Every Blackpiller would be able to get into a sexual relationship with a 47 year old slightly overweight single mother of 2. Every Blackpiller would be able to get laid 2 times a year if they go Amsterdam. Every Blackpiller could get into a relationship with almost any Menopausal Woman, But they do want this? No.

The Blackpillers want the girls youth, fertility, estrogen. This is very hard to get without being genetically blessed.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

The issue isn’t Blackpillers not understanding the dynamics and what makes females work. The issue is every Blackpillers wants the hot, young, sexy, fertile girl between 20-29. And those girls want the genetically blessed men, men Blackpillers cant compete with.

Every Blackpiller would be able to get into a sexual relationship with a 47 year old slightly overweight single mother of 2. Every Blackpiller would be able to get laid 2 times a year if they go Amsterdam. Every Blackpiller could get into a relationship with almost any Menopausal Woman, But they do want this? No.

The Blackpillers want the girls youth, fertility, estrogen. This is very hard to get without being genetically blessed.

Again. Don't assume a Blackpiller is unsuccessful with women. Blackpill is just a way of seeing the world.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Again. Don't assume a Blackpiller is unsuccessful with women. Blackpill is just a way of seeing the world.

I've never met a Chad or guy in a decent relationship quote blackpill stuff. Just saying lol. At most, I hear locker room boys' logic that is more akin to red pill than black pill.

 

[corrector]

I've never met a Chad or guy in a decent relationship quote blackpill stuff. Just saying lol. At most, I hear locker room boys' logic that is more akin to red pill than black pill.

You just did as that describes @Hamurabimbi. When a chad has close incel friends and sees the gross unfairness it leaves an impression. For example a stripper selling her services and ignoring the incel friend.

Not everyone on the receiving end of unearned priviledge either has signed up for it or is comfortable with how others are treated if they have a conscience.

 

[Serenity]

This forum is still about improving with regards to women, making a forum section just for negativity and defeatism would go against that. Besides, concentrating a lot of guys with severely lacking social skills in one place would be hell to moderate.

They can come here to learn or they can go somewhere else to find support for their defeatist ideas. I ignore them all day long, I don't bother responding to any of them anymore once I see they don't listen to reason. We can't save them no matter how hard we try, they can only save themselves. They might come to that realization faster if we don't feed them as our resistance only makes them fortify their stance.

Disclaimer: I don't and can't decide or make forum sections, this is just my opinion. I enforce the rules, I don't make them, as long as "black pillers" abide by the forum rules they're allowed to stay. That said, I don't personally like their point of view at all and strongly disagree with their general ideas.

 

[The Duke]

Again. Don't assume a Blackpiller is unsuccessful with women. Blackpill is just a way of seeing the world.

So do we have any black pill guys that are successful with women?

 

[Millard Fillmore]

That would be like adding a KKK section to a black power forum.

I'm sure there are black pill forums where they can feel more welcome.

 

[Gamisch]

That would be like adding a KKK section to a black power forum.

I'm sure there are black pill forums where they can feel more welcome.

I dont know. At r/exredpill you absolutely CANNOT talk about redpill shyte unless its negative. Anything else means ban hammer.

You just did as that describes @Hamurabimbi. When a chad has close incel friends and sees the gross unfairness it leaves an impression. For example a stripper selling her services and ignoring the incel friend.

Not everyone on the receiving end of unearned priviledge either has signed up for it or is comfortable with how others are treated if they have a conscience.

You do have a point. Thats why I said every grown man at some point will at least understand all of the pills.

Its a matter of decision making which pill you'll eventually" support".

Isn't Black Pill just the realization that looks are the most important determinant for dating success?

What leads to romantic attraction: similarity, reciprocity, security, or beauty? Evidence from a speed-dating study - PubMed

Years of attraction research have established several "principles" of attraction with robust evidence. However, a major limitation of previous attraction studies is that they have almost exclusively relied on well-controlled experiments, which are often criticized for lacking ecological...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I imagine there are shades of Black Pill. From those who think looks are the only factor to those (like me) who think it is very important, but many other factors are relevant as well. There is no reason to assume a Black Piller is negative & bitter. I'm pretty positive and happy.

You sound like a redpiller with sprinkles of blackpill to it. Just the fact you understand that looks are not the end all be all makes you more red than blackpill imo.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I dont know. At r/exredpill you absolutely CANNOT talk about redpill shyte unless its negative. Anything else means ban hammer.


You do have a point. Thats why I said every grown man at some point will at least understand all of the pills.

Its a matter of decision making which pill you'll eventually" support".

You sound like a redpiller with sprinkles of blackpill to it. Just the fact you understand that looks are not the end all be all makes you more red than blackpill imo.

You could be right.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

So do we have any black pill guys that are successful with women?

I do fine. But. As Gamisch pointed out, I could be a Redpiller with splashes of Black. He may be right.

 

[corrector]

I do fine. But. As Gamisch pointed out, I could be a Redpiller with splashes of Black. He may be right.

If you believe your incel friend is doomed then that would be blackpill. Remember the stripper denied your friend service. What other factor, apart from looks could have changed that?

Do you really believe any of your close incel friends have a chance or is it just the unfortunate cards they have been handed to deal with?

 

[characternote]

So do we have any black pill guys that are successful with women?

I've done fairly well I guess, and I'm somewhat blackpilled (I think?! I've never really been completely certain what exactly all the various pills even mean)

Tbh, some of the blackpilled forums actually have people who post more proof of slaying than on PUA boards lol. They're not all depressed women hating losers. A lot of them are just regular dudes who decided that looks=attraction, and decided to take fairly drastic measures to change how they look and now enjoy the rewards when it comes to dating

I don't know how one can't be at least somewhat blackpilled to an extent. But my definition of being blackpilled in a PUA sense is more that it's mostly your looks that determine your success rate with cold approach, and that you can't 'game' your way into a girls pants if she's just not into you. I think over a long enough timeline, everyone becomes somewhat blackpilled. When Todd Valentine is 65 and bald and wrinkled and he's trying to bang some hot 18 year old in a bar using his pushpull lines and stuff, he'll have a change of heart lol (he'll realise his charisma/game/confidence/whateveryouwannacallit) is no substitute for raw attraction and simply doesn't cut the ice.

Thinking about it, the GLL forum that gets mentioned lots on here is basically no different. It's essentially a blackpill forum despite being lumped in with 'game' forums. Lots of confirmed slayers on there, too.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

If you believe your incel friend is doomed then that would be blackpill. Remember the stripper denied your friend service. What other factor, apart from looks could have changed that?

Do you really believe any of your close incel friends have a chance or is it just the unfortunate cards they have been handed to deal with?

I think that if they put in the effort. improved themselves physically (lose weight, dress better…), work on thier social skills they have a chance. They’re not ugly. Just avg to low avg looks. It’s mental issues holding them back. What’s ironic is my least attractive friends are married. But they are normal mentally.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I've done fairly well I guess, and I'm somewhat blackpilled (I think?! I've never really been completely certain what exactly all the various pills even mean)

Tbh, some of the blackpilled forums actually have people who post more proof of slaying than on PUA boards lol. They're not all depressed women hating losers. A lot of them are just regular dudes who decided that looks=attraction, and decided to take fairly drastic measures to change how they look and now enjoy the rewards when it comes to dating

I don't know how one can't be at least somewhat blackpilled to an extent. But my definition of being blackpilled in a PUA sense is more that it's mostly your looks that determine your success rate with cold approach, and that you can't 'game' your way into a girls pants if she's just not into you. I think over a long enough timeline, everyone becomes somewhat blackpilled. When Todd Valentine is 65 and bald and wrinkled and he's trying to bang some hot 18 year old in a bar using his pushpull lines and stuff, he'll have a change of heart lol (he'll realise his charisma/game/confidence/whateveryouwannacallit) is no substitute for raw attraction

Thinking about it, the GLL forum that gets mentioned lots on here is basically no different. It's essentially a blackpill forum despite being lumped in with 'game' forums. Lots of confirmed slayers on there, too.

To see the Blackpill (for lack of a better term) in action: If you are handsome, go hang out with your average looking friends. If you are average looking. go hang out with a handsome buddy. Don’t hit on girls. Just hang out. You will see.

 

[corrector]

To see the Blackpill (for lack of a better term) in action: If you are handsome, go hang out with your average looking friends. If you are average looking. go hang out with a handsome buddy. Don’t hit on girls. Just hang out. You will see.

Yeah, it looks like there is a disconnect betweem chad/chadlite posters and normies and sub 5s. You can almost see who is who by the posts. You wonder sometimes if the chad/chadlite posters can even cope if they had the same "invisible with women" experience for a week as the other posters.