"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Never hit a woman?
- Thread starter 02hero
- Start date
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Tictac
Banned
Never hit a lady? Sure, I 'll go with that. Those weren't ladies. Females, yes, women, perhaps, ladies, give me a break. It was a pack of *****es.
The first serious blow that lands on me from a female disqualifies her as a lady. The rest is thr rest.
This guy is a commercial diver. I was a USN frogman. He's one tough SOB. They played upon his upbringing.
Isn't that what we're supposed to be bringing into the light here?
Never hit a lady? Okay. But ladies, even women, don't beat on men.
Quid pro quo,
Tictac
The first serious blow that lands on me from a female disqualifies her as a lady. The rest is thr rest.
This guy is a commercial diver. I was a USN frogman. He's one tough SOB. They played upon his upbringing.
Isn't that what we're supposed to be bringing into the light here?
Never hit a lady? Okay. But ladies, even women, don't beat on men.
Quid pro quo,
Tictac
It's funny that in the comments, one woman still managed to blame men for this attack, claiming that those vicious females are products of a misogynist (she can't spell that word of course) society.
Couldn't that man simply run away?
Couldn't that man simply run away?
Scaramouche
Master Don Juan
Dear Oz,
Thanks for that,five years ago I was put in Hospital for the night by a charming socially responsible Yoga Addict,pacifist,you name it......This included a kick in the face....Having been trained in unarmed combat I was just so tempted to punch her lights out,but all the time I just kept saying to myself if you touch her you are a gone coon mate...When the gendarmes turned up they were just so reluctant to do anything to her,"surely he hit you,you are just protecting him"do you believe....it stinks...but this is the System we have created....No never hit them back.
Thanks for that,five years ago I was put in Hospital for the night by a charming socially responsible Yoga Addict,pacifist,you name it......This included a kick in the face....Having been trained in unarmed combat I was just so tempted to punch her lights out,but all the time I just kept saying to myself if you touch her you are a gone coon mate...When the gendarmes turned up they were just so reluctant to do anything to her,"surely he hit you,you are just protecting him"do you believe....it stinks...but this is the System we have created....No never hit them back.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
The Message Boy
Banned
- Joined
- Aug 1, 2009
- Messages
- 306
- Reaction score
- 11
Well here's a thread where I can sort of take more of a stance WITH the "American women svck" crowd lol.
Actually Danger this is wrong, in the self-defense laws you are only allowed to give back force in relation to the type of force put on you.
So a strong truck driver getting "hit" but a 160 lb woman might not be seen as self-defense, really depends.
With the lobbying of the court system by more liberal members of society (more government, women/minority rights, regulation of free market) alot of the court system has been influenced by liberal mindsets and women are PROTECTED MOST of the time from MOST attacks from men even if the guy had an actual right to defend himself.
IN most cases, if a guy is attacking a guy that's due force and the guy getting attacked can call his "force" self-defense. But with a woman not so, it has to be almost a situation where the chick is shooting at you to where you are given the "right" to knock her on her ass.
Da Realist
Master Don Juan
It's one thing if a woman slaps you in the face, but if there is a gang of them, go to town on all of them. I may go easy on them somewhat, but I would have put the guy in the group in the hospital.
scrouds
Master Don Juan
My friend (and fencing instructor) was a strong proponent of Aikido, whose fundamental theory is to protect both you, and your attacker from injury. Its an intersting theory and an interesting martial art.
It this world, where a man's word will not be trusted, and lawsuits aplenty, this type of defense training seems very practical.
As to the laws, there are some crazy laws out there. So called "retreat laws" that say you basically must be cornered by the person before you can use signifigant force. I can't speak whatsoever to the laws in the UK, and barely about the the laws in the US. I do know florida has upheld many defense rights, including lethal force to defend your home.
It this world, where a man's word will not be trusted, and lawsuits aplenty, this type of defense training seems very practical.
As to the laws, there are some crazy laws out there. So called "retreat laws" that say you basically must be cornered by the person before you can use signifigant force. I can't speak whatsoever to the laws in the UK, and barely about the the laws in the US. I do know florida has upheld many defense rights, including lethal force to defend your home.
Lets not forget the guy managed to pop one of them on the nose and broke it in one hit.
Proof enough that if a guy wanted to hit out, a girls face will melt like jelly.
At least in this story the girls got locked up, normally they get let off with a slapped wrist.
Times are changing.
These types of incidents are nothing new (I used to see girl feral gangs on nights out when I was fresh into the clubbing scene), but the reporting of it is, normally this sort of thing was hush, hush.
This to me is a good sign.
Just like the fact that now in the UK false rape accusers are getting jail time and their names plastered over the papers - Like I said, things are changing slowly.
Proof enough that if a guy wanted to hit out, a girls face will melt like jelly.
At least in this story the girls got locked up, normally they get let off with a slapped wrist.
Times are changing.
These types of incidents are nothing new (I used to see girl feral gangs on nights out when I was fresh into the clubbing scene), but the reporting of it is, normally this sort of thing was hush, hush.
This to me is a good sign.
Just like the fact that now in the UK false rape accusers are getting jail time and their names plastered over the papers - Like I said, things are changing slowly.
WaterTiger
Master Don Juan
Holy Crap!!! Okay, I was raised in a generation where striking a woman was a horrible thing. But then, most women still acted like ladies.
Now "lady" means any human female.(In my day it meant a feminine, mannerly woman who was graceful, polite and had class.)
The cold hard fact is men are, in general, larger and more powerful than men. When you hit, you do much more damage than we do. The law is NOT in your favor. If you hit a woman during an argument, you will be arrested & jailed, even if you were just "returning the punch".
My advice on the subject is this:
*If you are in the situation of the poor ba$tard in the video, treat them as male assailents and FIGHT FOR YOUR FREAKING LIFE! Punch, kick, bite, shove, anything you have to do to get them off of you. Call the police & press charges.
*If you're having an argument with your wife/girlfriend, don't let it get to the screaming stage. Step back, calm down, discuss it later with cooler heads. If you have to leave the house, do so. (This is better than getting into a physical altercation, for which YOU will be arrested for no matter WHO started it!)
*If your wife/girlfriend smacks, shoves, kicks, punches or throws things at you. LEAVE! Dump her instantly if she's a girlfriend, file seperation papers if she's a wife.
NONE OF THIS:
"Oh Honey! I'm sorry! I got carried away!
"Oh man up! I bearly touched you!"
"I'm sorry! It will never happen again!"
Dump her and don't go back. SHE WILL GET YOU PUT IN JAIL. She is toxic and does not deserve a good man in her life.
As deeply tempting as it is to take Danger's advice, (and BELIEVE ME! I've wanted to kick the asses of some of the beeyoches I've read about in some of these threads!) hitting a woman will only get you put in jail.
Dump her!
*Go on Facebook and tell everyone she's a violent psycho & tries to beat on men so she can get them put in jail as a sick fantasy.
*Tell your friends not to date her, that she has mental issues.
*Swear out a complaint with the police so there is a record of her bad behavior.
*If she left a mark on you, have her arrested for battery. PRESS CHARGES!
...women will do it to you for hitting them. They want to be equal to men, then treat them like they do you.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I have hit a girl more than once. The only time I regret was when it was over money(she was stealing from me), but none of them reported to authorities.
A wise Latina would have a better perspective to judge...
I'm not reading this article since it really has no bearing on the overall issue, but I see no moral issue with hitting a woman anymore than with a guy. They claim women are defenseless but it's simply not true.
If i'm 6'1 220 lbs of muscle and i come across a 5'6 140 lb emo guy it's STILL more okay for me to hit that guy than to hit some girl? They're both basically relatively defenseless. Especially since most chicks nowadays are like 200 lbs and have 6 inches of padding to absorb the blow.
I think this is a case of build up emotions through social training that you should feel bad about yourself.
I think everyone needs hit now and then. How about a one big wack with a cane rather than stupid pointless costly 1 year of probation after you commit a minor misdimeanor?
Besides, i've been hit by more women than i've ever hit. I don't care if i "can take it." It still fvcking hurts.
If i'm 6'1 220 lbs of muscle and i come across a 5'6 140 lb emo guy it's STILL more okay for me to hit that guy than to hit some girl? They're both basically relatively defenseless. Especially since most chicks nowadays are like 200 lbs and have 6 inches of padding to absorb the blow.
I think this is a case of build up emotions through social training that you should feel bad about yourself.
I think everyone needs hit now and then. How about a one big wack with a cane rather than stupid pointless costly 1 year of probation after you commit a minor misdimeanor?
Besides, i've been hit by more women than i've ever hit. I don't care if i "can take it." It still fvcking hurts.
You know, nothing says you can't pepper spray a girl who is attacking you...
I would never punch a girl in the face, mostly because her face would break. And it should never come to that. If there is an argument and I get assaulted by a girl, I will take it. It would be difficult for ANY jury to look at me and say that it was possible for me to use "equal force" against a female.
Its better to know some gangster pipe-hittin' girls who will take care of this b1tch for you.
edit: after reading the article in detail, I noticed that it was another male who started the fighting and then the females jumped in when he was defenseless. I bet that if the male "leader" ended up with a broken neck, the rest of the girls would have just backed away.
I would never punch a girl in the face, mostly because her face would break. And it should never come to that. If there is an argument and I get assaulted by a girl, I will take it. It would be difficult for ANY jury to look at me and say that it was possible for me to use "equal force" against a female.
Its better to know some gangster pipe-hittin' girls who will take care of this b1tch for you.
edit: after reading the article in detail, I noticed that it was another male who started the fighting and then the females jumped in when he was defenseless. I bet that if the male "leader" ended up with a broken neck, the rest of the girls would have just backed away.
Colossus
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Jan 22, 2005
- Messages
- 3,494
- Reaction score
- 543
I've never hit a woman, but I've often pondered this topic.
Before the hyper-feminazi-equality era, hitting a woman was acceptable in certain circumstances, and in fact commonplace.
Personally, I think if men were allowed to belt a tramp when she deserved it there would be a lot more respect in this country. But I have to agree with WaterTiger---as gratifying and justified as it may be, in the western world (especially the US) the man WILL lose. Jail time, hefty fines, anger management classes, and a criminal record just isn't worth it.
My only exception would be in cases of self-defense. If it's just one woman you could restrain her without actually striking her, but if it's a gang like that in the article...all bets are off. If they want to play like men then they can get hit by a man.
Before the hyper-feminazi-equality era, hitting a woman was acceptable in certain circumstances, and in fact commonplace.
Personally, I think if men were allowed to belt a tramp when she deserved it there would be a lot more respect in this country. But I have to agree with WaterTiger---as gratifying and justified as it may be, in the western world (especially the US) the man WILL lose. Jail time, hefty fines, anger management classes, and a criminal record just isn't worth it.
My only exception would be in cases of self-defense. If it's just one woman you could restrain her without actually striking her, but if it's a gang like that in the article...all bets are off. If they want to play like men then they can get hit by a man.
The Muscle Expert
Banned
- Joined
- Oct 20, 2009
- Messages
- 26
- Reaction score
- 2
Ok, this is what I learned about self defense laws from my brother who is a chicago police officer.
If you feel your life is in danger, you can use deadly force. In a situation like the article before, he would have been justified in killing the men and women in the group.
Now if this is a single women, the law changes dramatically. A women has no chance of harming me without a weapon, I would only be allowed under the law to restrain her.
If you are ever in a situation like this guy, do what you need to do. Don't talk to the police. Explain the situation to your public defender or defense attorney. You will walk.
If you feel your life is in danger, you can use deadly force. In a situation like the article before, he would have been justified in killing the men and women in the group.
Now if this is a single women, the law changes dramatically. A women has no chance of harming me without a weapon, I would only be allowed under the law to restrain her.
If you are ever in a situation like this guy, do what you need to do. Don't talk to the police. Explain the situation to your public defender or defense attorney. You will walk.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
WaterTiger
Master Don Juan
A lot of women have the "I'm untouchable" mentality. They think they CAN'T get hit because God himself will come down and smite the offending lad who dare raise a hand to them.
But the tide is turning, and it's not going to be pretty when it does.
I, however, learned my lesson long ago. When the situation starts to get heated... I leave.
But the tide is turning, and it's not going to be pretty when it does.
I, however, learned my lesson long ago. When the situation starts to get heated... I leave.
Da Realist
Master Don Juan
I think the whole point of never hitting a woman is that it's bullying under normal circumstances. It would be like me picking on the guy who's 5'6 and 130 instead of knocking out the guy who's about my height and build or larger.
The other side is that there are times when you will have to get a situation under control and the rule may fall through. Now it's about using the appropriate force for the situation. There are going to be times you can just restrain a woman and she'll give up. There are time where they aren't going to stop fighting no matter what and you may have to punch or kick them in the gut to take the wind out them. Now if she's trying to kill you, anything goes at that point. I side on just knocking her lights out if possible, but I won't blame the guy who stomps a mudhole in her.
The other side is that there are times when you will have to get a situation under control and the rule may fall through. Now it's about using the appropriate force for the situation. There are going to be times you can just restrain a woman and she'll give up. There are time where they aren't going to stop fighting no matter what and you may have to punch or kick them in the gut to take the wind out them. Now if she's trying to kill you, anything goes at that point. I side on just knocking her lights out if possible, but I won't blame the guy who stomps a mudhole in her.
The law is wrong.The Muscle Expert said:
There's a big wopping difference between what is right and what you should do and what the law is.
You come at me or anyone, you deserve what you get. Don't fvck with the bear if you don't want to risk having your heart eaten out of your chest. He's not going to have mercy on me because i'm smaller. I started it!!
You don't deserve "restrained." You deserve to have your face caved in if you are going to punch me. I don't care what gender or what size you are. Whether I can do that or not, remains to be seen, but i deserve the chance to, and you should know going in that i'm completely allowed to. The law is wrong.
Have any of you read Ender's Game? I love that book. Anyone who screwed with this little 6 year old, he absolutely destroyed. He realized that if he didn't put his enemy down right then and permanently, they'd just come back to get him later and he'd have to fight again and again.
A woman does have a chance of harming you without a weapon anyway. If anyone gets hit *just* right they can collapse someone or damage an organ or something.
The Muscle Expert
Banned
- Joined
- Oct 20, 2009
- Messages
- 26
- Reaction score
- 2
Ok internet tough guy, reality check.mrRuckus said:
Real life is nothing like a book. What happens in a book doesn't happen in REAL LIFE. Do you live in a favela? No. You live in suburban america and have fantasies of destroying your enemies.
I've fought top notch boxers, golden glove champions. I've been hit with shots that should have knocked me out, but didn't. I've never even been knocked down. A woman isn't going to magically f*ck you up because she hit you just right.
I am a man that is close to 190lbs of muscle and a trained boxer. I can **** up a large man, imagine what I would do to a woman? I have no business hitting a woman, unless she is in a pack of she-b*tches.
KontrollerX
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Oct 11, 2005
- Messages
- 4,476
- Reaction score
- 182
If a gang of women surrounded me and tried that sh!t I wouldn't be the one going to the hospital thats for damn sure.
You 18 year old AFC lurkers that just found this site take note.
The liberal feminist moralist teaching "never hit a woman" is just someone else's bullsh!t rule.
Its not necessarily a bad rule in total just biased as it should simply say don't hit anyone unless your life is in danger from them but anyway the rule as it currently goes biased toward's females does not apply in all situations but especially in a situation like this where your life is in danger.
People laugh when you talk about women being potentially dangerous as in a life threatening sense because for years they are indoctrinated that women are sugar and spice and everything nice and so fragile as to need constant male protection.
Well this gang, Casey Anthony, Aileen Wuornos, Elizabeth Bathory, Meagan Susan Vice, Dalia Dippolito and many many other women locked behind bars right now prove that idealistic pollyannish over optimistic theory dead wrong.
A gang be it male or female tries to threaten your life fight back to the point you may end up killing your assailant and feel good about that.
Don't lose one hour or one night of sleep over it.
Don't lay down like a g0ddamned dog like this pathetic indoctrinated moron in the article did.
How easy it would have been for any of those women to suddenly pull out a knife or a gun and surpass the "men are stronger" argument the manginas keep bringing up as a justification for why you never hit women.
If a b!tch comes at me with a knife my fist is going to slam into her nose and with any luck it will send her nose back up into her brain and kill her so that I live and if not kill her at least teach her a lesson that if you are going to be a murderous lowlife you will be dispatched like one with extreme prejudice.
If a single b!tch or many b!tches start attacking me they will soon be eating the pavement.
Treat others how you want to be treated > never hit a woman.
Thats how I think. :rock:
You 18 year old AFC lurkers that just found this site take note.
The liberal feminist moralist teaching "never hit a woman" is just someone else's bullsh!t rule.
Its not necessarily a bad rule in total just biased as it should simply say don't hit anyone unless your life is in danger from them but anyway the rule as it currently goes biased toward's females does not apply in all situations but especially in a situation like this where your life is in danger.
People laugh when you talk about women being potentially dangerous as in a life threatening sense because for years they are indoctrinated that women are sugar and spice and everything nice and so fragile as to need constant male protection.
Well this gang, Casey Anthony, Aileen Wuornos, Elizabeth Bathory, Meagan Susan Vice, Dalia Dippolito and many many other women locked behind bars right now prove that idealistic pollyannish over optimistic theory dead wrong.
A gang be it male or female tries to threaten your life fight back to the point you may end up killing your assailant and feel good about that.
Don't lose one hour or one night of sleep over it.
Don't lay down like a g0ddamned dog like this pathetic indoctrinated moron in the article did.
How easy it would have been for any of those women to suddenly pull out a knife or a gun and surpass the "men are stronger" argument the manginas keep bringing up as a justification for why you never hit women.
If a b!tch comes at me with a knife my fist is going to slam into her nose and with any luck it will send her nose back up into her brain and kill her so that I live and if not kill her at least teach her a lesson that if you are going to be a murderous lowlife you will be dispatched like one with extreme prejudice.
If a single b!tch or many b!tches start attacking me they will soon be eating the pavement.
Treat others how you want to be treated > never hit a woman.
Thats how I think. :rock:
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.