EyeBRollin
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That’s a first date, not a second date. Bvtches want to see progression.It wasn't about the money. I wanted to spend time outside because it was a nice day.
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That’s a first date, not a second date. Bvtches want to see progression.It wasn't about the money. I wanted to spend time outside because it was a nice day.
Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
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My experience is the exact opposite of yours. For me, "outdoors" dates have resulted in a higher chance of success than generic bar/restaurant dates. Obviously, an outdoors date has to be planned as such and you have to go somewhere interesting. I'm not suggesting you show up at a girl's house and say "hey, let's walk 17 blocks through random industrial and residential areas and stop by at Walmart for a bag of chips".I live in Europe … it is the same thing
I was born and lived in an EE country till my mid 20s . It was the same also there
going for a walk is the kind of activity that you do from time to time with someone that you consistently banged … not with someone that you have no proper rapport with
By that logic, date 7 should be on a yacht and date 8 on a private jet. Where do you come up with this stuff?That’s a first date, not a second date. Bvtches want to see progression.
Good luck with that .
I rarely seen good looking women doing trail tracking and stuff like that
what I have seen is usually 30+ women that are going through a woke phase . And most of them at best average looking
Ah, right. Appealing to the extreme.By that logic, date 7 should be on a yacht and date 8 on a private jet. Where do you come up with this stuff?
Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
I once met a girl for drinks for our first date. It went well. For our second date, I suggested going for a walk by the water. She gave me the "I'm not a dog" line. I told her I was no longer interested in a second date.
I get the sense that this 2nd date proposition was sold poorly. It was likely proposed over text. When there was resistance, there probably needed to be a phone call to work things out because it wasn't going to be simple. Additionally, on a nice day, there can be a walk + additional activity date.It wasn't about the money. I wanted to spend time outside because it was a nice day.
I agree with this idea that biatches want to see progression to a point. A walk after a drinks date isn't going to work but a walk on a nice afternoon + something else could work if sold persuasively enough, which I know I could do.That’s a first date, not a second date. Bvtches want to see progression.
maybe you see more success because the ones that worked , also the girls had a higher interest in youMy experience is the exact opposite of yours. For me, "outdoors" dates have resulted in a higher chance of success than generic bar/restaurant dates. Obviously, an outdoors date has to be planned as such and you have to go somewhere interesting. I'm not suggesting you show up a girl's house and say "hey, let's walk 17 blocks though random industrial and residential areas and stop by at Walmart for a bag of chips".
Again this is subjective at best. There are areas in the US where being outdoors and fitness is a thing. Many women (of decent quality and fitness) in northern California (not Estonia or one of the former Soviet satellites) state clearly in their profiles they would like an active first meet - this is always a win-win, because it preselects a woman who is in decent shape and weeds out simps in ****ty physical condition and young punks coming off a drinking binge Friday night.I live in Europe … it is the same thing
I was born and lived in an EE country till my mid 20s . It was the same also there
going for a walk is the kind of activity that you do from time to time with someone that you consistently banged … not with someone that you have no proper rapport with
I really doubt that in your area and culture above average women go for hiking . Never saw that . Maybe once in a couple of years you see it , but it happens so rarely that it does not make any sense to mention itDude, I'm in my 50's so for me it's realistically 35+ and I have no idea where you're seeing that I see more HWP chicks on trails here than in the gen pop, and HWP is a starting point - at least in my area.
I think we should always qualify our posts with our age, and location. Culture, country, and age affect a great deal.
The dating dance is a process. A walk in the park is either a first date, accompanied with something else, or a relationship date. Women subconsciously view this kind of negative progression as cheap.I agree with this idea that biatches want to see progression to a point. A walk after a drinks date isn't going to work but a walk on a nice afternoon + something else could work if sold persuasively enough, which I know I could do.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
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These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
You seem to have a pathological fear of being seen as "cheap" by women. I see this coming through in many of your posts. This is a typical trait of insecure beta males.Ah, right. Appealing to the extreme.
You're cheap, bro. The girls can smell it.
man , I do not have the knowledge to say if it is like that or not , because I do not live there . But also depends on how you define decentAgain this is subjective at best. There are areas in the US where being outdoors and fitness is a thing. Many women (of decent quality and fitness) in northern California (not Estonia or one of the former Soviet satellites) state clearly in their profiles they would like an active first meet - this is always a win-win, because it preselects a woman who is in decent shape and weeds out simps in ****ty physical condition and young punks coming off a drinking binge Friday night.
and also guys who struggle the most with women , are also the guys who do a lot of things that are not social acceptable and are also very stubborn about their beliefsYou seem to have a pathological fear of being seen as "cheap" by women. I see this come across in many of your posts. This is a typical trait of insecure beta males.
I really doubt that in your area and culture above average women go for hiking . Never saw that . Maybe once in a couple of years you see it , but it happens so rarely that it does not make any sense to mention it
To be honest, I was immediately turned off by the "I'm not a dog" line. It was obvious that she got it from some youtube personality or women's advice magazine. This is such a stupid and cheesy thing to say.I get the sense that this 2nd date proposition was sold poorly. It was likely proposed over text. When there was resistance, there probably needed to be a phone call to work things out because it wasn't going to be simple. Additionally, on a nice day, there can be a walk + additional activity date.
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
No. I don’t give a fvck about womens perception. I genuinely dislike cheap people. Cheapness comes from an inherent lack of discernment.You seem to have a pathological fear of being seen as "cheap" by women. I see this in many of your posts. This is a typical trait of insecure beta males.
I might be Eastern European , but I lived in Western Europe half of my life . Including Boston for 3 years almostYou don't know anything about Northern California clearly, but it's ok - I don't expect much from an Eastern European...dear lord.
The variable I see here is what kind of lifestyle the girl livesI once met a girl for drinks for our first date. It went well. For our second date, I suggested going for a walk by the water. She gave me the "I'm not a dog" line. I told her I was no longer interested in a second date.
She was correct. Your second date was cheap.
I disagree with this based on the details posted. Cheap implies he's trying to avoid spending money at any cost, which excludes the possibility that there's a very nice place to take a walk by the water in the area Bokanovsky lives.only cheap people like other cheap people
not even normal guys like cheap guys
Yes, she likely did. She probably got it from Kornelija Slunjski (KokoBeaute on social media) mentioned in the first post of this thread. KokoBeaute has a huge social media following. KokoBeaute herself probably didn't come up with that phrase. KokoBeaute does brand herself as a "Boujee Best Friend".To be honest, I was immediately turned off by the "I'm not a dog" line. It was obvious that she got it from some youtube personality or women's advice magazine. This is such a stupid and cheesy thing to say.
This is true to an extent. I find that a metro area needs at least 150,000 in population to be good enough for dating in most cases. When you go lower than 100-150K in area population, you start to have issues with too little choice. However, women in smaller areas do get a little bit less delusional. One of my divorced cousins is dating in an area under 50,000 and he was telling me about how women behave. Women do get less fussy and delusional when the population is small, which is an advantage.actually looking at how small are the cities where you live , I would say that most of whatever you say is bullsh1t . You need a certain amount of city size to have a decent dating life
Northern California sucks. Metro San Francisco (including Silicon Valley) is likely the worst mating environment in the United States.Northern California
I might be Eastern European , but I lived in Western Europe half of my life . Including Boston for 3 years almost
but … till someone else does not confirm that indeed northern Carolina is the place where above average women do hiking , I will just say is bullsh1t what you are saying
and also amigo , most of the cities in EE are way better than North Carolina in terms of whatever you want to compare
the biggest city in North Carolina has less than 1 million people , and the average gdp per capita is only slighter than the average gdp of most EE country
So yeah , someone from North Carolina trying to imply that he is superior in any way to an EE kinda leads no where