Never call after a day 2 : a discussion

[mackdaddy27]

First of all,this is ultimatley an alpha approach even though it doesn't sound like it .
You just spend like 4 or 5 hours with the chick. In your mind , she auditioned for your time but you leave the choice to continue or not in her hands part . If she liked spending time with you then she will call you first . If you call before that you lose that to evaluate how she is truely feeling towards you. Why is that important you might ask ? Because as an alpha your time is very valuable , you don't want to waist your time if your with a girl who actually wants to be with you. Remember your an alpha , simply next her if she doesn't call and move on to find someone that satisfies your desires and wants . You don't need to have to any gimmacks or push pull games with her , its over , find a better use of your time . Remember its better to be single and looking for a good fitting partner than to lose your drive by being with someone not completly into it or worth a relationship.
What are your thoughts on the significance of not calling back after day 2 ?

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I personally enjoy having how I feel about the woman play a part in the decision making. Instead of waiting to determine how she feels about me I find out immediately while I'm qualifying her. The efficiency is that I determine whether or not I would want to see her again during the first meeting instead of waiting on whether she calls. If we determine during the first meeting that we're both interested, we set up a subsequent meeting right then and there. No wondering, no worries.

 

[ready123]

some girls expect you to lead because it's an extension of your natural maculinity. so once in a while you get a girl who won't call no matter what. instead she'll gush about you to her friends while waiting for you to call her

 

[Joe The Homophobe]

When it comes to calling there is 1 rule which should always be followed. If you meet a chick on a weekday for example, never call her on the weekend. You are "busy" on the weekends.

 

[mackdaddy27]

The idea being you don't get any more attached and cause yourself to kill your game with other plates

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

The idea being you don't get any more attached and cause yourself to kill your game with other plates

I can agree with that but why wait? Why not figure it out immediately? Our time is valuable, isn't it?

 

[Effington]

I like to keep the ball in my court. Don't make it her decision. As someone else also mentioned, some women play it old-fashion so won't make the first move.

If I snag a number on a Friday/Saturday, I'll call Tuesday/Wednesday of the next week.

 

[BeyondCharm]

Effington, this thread is about "after day 2's" meaning you've already gone on a first date with her, not after you snag her number.

Francisco d'Anconia, when you determine if she's interested, do you do so with a question of some kind that you've found ellicits a clear response without coming off too needy? What do you say/do exactly, beyond reading basic IOI's?

 

[IPalindromeI]

What are your thoughts on the significance of not calling back after day 2?

Depends on the girl. Most of them will consult the almighty dating books and conclude that it is against the 'rules' to call you, and you must 'just not be that into her'.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...Francisco d'Anconia, when you determine if she's interested, do you do so with a question of some kind that you've found ellicits a clear response without coming off too needy? What do you say/do exactly, beyond reading basic IOI's?

If you're qualifying her properly it doesn't come off as needy at all, more times than not she's trying to keep up with you (at least if she's interested). Like there's no one pickup line there's no one question that will definitively say that she's interested. Check that; there is. If she says "yes" to getting together again at a later time.

 

[DonGorgon]

Depends on the girl. Most of them will consult the almighty dating books and conclude that it is against the 'rules' to call you, and you must 'just not be that into her'.

Soo true... many women are using their own dating game books etc to make decisions complicating everything..

 

[BeyondCharm]

If you're qualifying her properly it doesn't come off as needy at all, more times than not she's trying to keep up with you (at least if she's interested). Like there's no one pickup line there's no one question that will definitively say that she's interested. Check that; there is. If she says "yes" to getting together again at a later time.

I think you pretty much nailed it and thats what I was interested in hearing. Essentially if she agrees to your suggestion of meeting again or vice versa, than you've maintained and possibly increased her interest and remained the prize. Thanks!

 

[Social Calibration]

Like someone said above, I like to keep the ball in my court. If I'm interested and the interactions and bonding are going well why would I NOT call her? Because I'm afraid that I might come off as needy?

Screw that, there's a huge difference between being genuinely interested and just being a pest and constantly txting/calling. I've noticed that a lot of people are starting to read into this the wrong way and turning them into mindless PU robots. Don't lose your personality, just make yourself that much fvcking cooler and better than you already are.

When you have already adopted the attitude that you're really cool, smooth and just downright confident, the "Alpha" in you will be a lot more natural, congruent and come out 24/7, rather than you "remembering" that you're an alpha in just certain situations.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I think you pretty much nailed it and thats what I was interested in hearing. Essentially if she agrees to your suggestion of meeting again or vice versa, than you've maintained and possibly increased her interest and remained the prize. Thanks!

Just for to sake of confusion, it should be said that just because a woman agrees to go out with you again, it doesn't mean that she's necessarily interested in you, she could just want something to do. This is why I'm not a proponent of action dates, movies, dinner or whatever early on.

Unless you're a troll, a woman will probably accept your invitation because the event would be fun and interesting, whether you were there or not. This is why I keep it simple as coffee and conversation in the beginning. It makes it easy to determine if there is a mutual interest or not; no confusion from the venue.

After that first bit of qualifying I would then look at a different type of venue. Nothing major, just hanging out; it may not easily be identified as a "date" either. It could be something as simple as a bike ride and playing it by ear about where we shower afterwards.

 

[BeyondCharm]

Just for to sake of confusion, it should be said that just because a woman agrees to go out with you again, it doesn't mean that she's necessarily interested in you, she could just want something to do. This is why I'm not a proponent of action dates, movies, dinner or whatever early on.

Unless you're a troll, a woman will probably accept your invitation because the event would be fun and interesting, whether you were there or not. This is why I keep it simple as coffee and conversation in the beginning. It makes it easy to determine if there is a mutual interest or not; no confusion from the venue.

After that first bit of qualifying I would then look at a different type of venue. Nothing major, just hanging out; it may not easily be identified as a "date" either. It could be something as simple as a bike ride and playing it by ear about where we shower afterwards.

I agree with you once again. If her words are along the lines of "I would love to go out with you again", that seems like a strong indicator though. Obviously peoples intentions are often concealed and beautiful women are taught to being alluring at times so like you said, you must do a fair bit of playing it by ear.