"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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nervous or disinterested?

lamobatsman

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How do you know if a girl is nervous or just not into you??

and does a DJ make a premature decision and walk away rather than stay longer than he needs to?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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lamobatsman

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no context just a general question.

im just interested in what real DJ does. Can a real DJ spot the difference?
 

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if you want an example-
i went out with a girl on a date for dinner in london. i wasnt sure if she was nervous about meeting or just not into me. we had plans to go to a bar and club after dinner.

i stayed after dinner and went to the bar and club with her friends. was it best to leave after dinner?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Mike32ct

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Ok.

I'll give you my GENERAL rule for first dates...

How the date actually goes means nothing. The only way to tell if she's interested is to try for a kiss at the end.

1. She walks fast to her car or keeps plenty of distance to avoid kissing you - No interest

2. She turns her face so you end up kissing her cheek - No interest

3. She kisses your lips or makes out with you (or more lol) - Interested

I don't really think in terms of her being nervous or not. It's always about interested versus not interested.
 

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Mike32ct said:
Ok.

I'll give you my GENERAL rule for first dates...

How the date actually goes means nothing. The only way to tell if she's interested is to try for a kiss at the end.

1. She walks fast to her car or keeps plenty of distance to avoid kissing you - No interest

2. She turns her face so you end up kissing her cheek - No interest

3. She kisses your lips or makes out with you (or more lol) - Interested

I don't really think in terms of her being nervous or not. It's always about interested versus not interested.

thanx. good advice
 

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The reason I say this is I've had 50 or 60 of these dates that "appeared" to go very well. The girl was smiling, laughing, and/or very talkative. But try to text or call her after the date? No response.

Looking back, the only common denominator I saw was the lack of a proper kiss. I tried but she wasn't having it.

So don't ever be fooled just because she appears to enjoy the date. You could be totally rejected or in friendzone, but the girl might still just enjoy the company, food, drinks, etc. She might seem like your dream girl with a great connection, but she has no intention of ever speaking to you again.

The kiss test is a much better indicator IME.
 

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What Mike32ct said. If she's not willing to kiss you, it's a no go.

In answer to your direct question, though: Yes, you should have left after dinner. Or, you should have found another activity where it would just be you and her. Going dancing with her friends, or meeting up with her friends, or running into them and agreeing to party with them - regardless of how the friends got mixed in with the date, it was a no-go. Friends shouldn't even be met until you've taken her out for at least 3 months - that way, you're established enough to where her friends' opinion of you won't make her sway.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I agree with Mike32. The kiss is a big indicator. Sometimes YOU may not feel like going in fir the kiss. It is a great gauge for you or her.

I also agree with Harry. You throw friends in the mix and ṣhit gets fücked up very quickly. Happened to me several times. When she insists to meet up with friends always, it means she doesn't want to be alone with you. Cut your losses at that point...punch out, Maverick!

As far as nervousness or disinterest goes: who cares? They are both detrimental to you getting this girl. If she's too timid and would rather stay home and knit instead of getting a boyfriend, fücking, and living a cool life, well then that's her decision. Once again, it would benefit you 0%. You can't make her do anything.

Nice and timid doesn't get you far in life.
 

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You can detect nervousness in how their hands act, a nervous girl will grasp things, adjust her dress, tap her fingers on things, rub her fingers together, etc. Or she'll go to the other end of the spectrum and keep her hands still and closed(but this will be betrayed in how quickly she moves her hands when she does things). It's like how a liar will either avoid eye contact or maintain it constantly.
 
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