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I can't take the simping and beta behavior anymore. I CANT MESSAGE ANY GIRL!!!!!!!!! they all have 1000000000 ****ing guys calling them queen or congratulating them on their birthday or saying how beautiful, sexy, sweet, cute, amazing, incredible, special they are. Begging them to message them. How the **** is this world gonna continue like this? What can I do? Become one of the 1000 guys in her inbox trying to get with her? And they are not even conventionally "hot" girls - far from it. It's literally driving me insane, that's why I wrote this to vent.

The simping is out of control. You guys have no fvcking idea how bad it is...
 
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I can't take the simping and beta behavior anymore. I CANT MESSAGE ANY GIRL!!!!!!!!! they all have 1000000000 ****ing guys calling them queen or congratulating them on their birthday or saying how beautiful, sexy, sweet, cute, amazing, incredible, special they are. How the **** is this world gonna continue like this? What can I do? Become one of the 1000 guys in her inbox trying to get with her?

The simping is out of control. You guys have no fvcking idea how bad it is.

Go take a vacation to The Philippines , Thailand or Indonesia brother. The women out there would love you. Take a breather and get a fresh perspective.
 

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Go take a vacation to The Philippines , Thailand or Indonesia brother. The women out there would love you. Take a breather and get a fresh perspective.
Thanks for the quick support brother, I had indeed already been planning to relocate around August... can't wait for that.
 

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Go take a vacation to The Philippines , Thailand or Indonesia brother. The women out there would love you. Take a breather and get a fresh perspective.
Yes, Great idea. No matter how it’s done though, the bottom line is that when a man gets down to this state, he needs find a way to reset or change his local environment perspective …
 

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Is your experience based in Sweden?
Yep, and I can't get shyt from OLD here haha, except a few women who were so repellant that I would rather be celibate than be with them. Why?

entirely possible that the women are rejecting you preemptively bc they dont believe you would really like them for long
You're one of the people here who remembers what I look like, so this judgement may be plausible, but do I look good enough to incite that compared to the competition? I don't think so... I know you have been talking about an anxiety epidemic on womens' parts though.

Know that I'm not just crying in vain without trying to change my situation as we've gone over, I'm planning to move abroad around August to somewhere with warm winters for a start.
 

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I can't take the simping and beta behavior anymore. I CANT MESSAGE ANY GIRL!!!!!!!!! they all have 1000000000 ****ing guys calling them queen or congratulating them on their birthday or saying how beautiful, sexy, sweet, cute, amazing, incredible, special they are. Begging them to message them. How the **** is this world gonna continue like this? What can I do? Become one of the 1000 guys in her inbox trying to get with her? And they are not even conventionally "hot" girls - far from it. It's literally driving me insane, that's why I wrote this to vent.

The simping is out of control. You guys have no fvcking idea how bad it is...
I could care less. I have a few plates and adding to the pipeline weekly. Still is the same. Act cool, be fun and interesting over text/phone and be the same in person. You'll get the same results.

Never confuse having lots of options with having good options. Most of those guys repulse women and make you look better if you act properly.
 

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Yep, and I can't get shyt from OLD here haha, except a few women who were so repellant that I would rather be celibate than be with them. Why?
just curious, as I have always thought swedish girls look very attractive, but i dont know the dating culture there.
 

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Go take a vacation to The Philippines , Thailand or Indonesia brother. The women out there would love you. Take a breather and get a fresh perspective.
Just so we are clear, this will work for non-white black or mixed-with black guys too? Nobody want any disappointments, but I hear Filipinas are more racist than some white women are. I kid you not. 99.99% of Filipina escort ads all say "no blacks". These women basically worship white guys. I've never once heard any black poster speak highly or express any conquest with Asian women of any sort.
 
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I can't take the simping and beta behavior anymore. I CANT MESSAGE ANY GIRL!!!!!!!!! they all have 1000000000 ****ing guys calling them queen or congratulating them on their birthday or saying how beautiful, sexy, sweet, cute, amazing, incredible, special they are. Begging them to message them. How the **** is this world gonna continue like this? What can I do? Become one of the 1000 guys in her inbox trying to get with her? And they are not even conventionally "hot" girls - far from it. It's literally driving me insane, that's why I wrote this to vent.

The simping is out of control. You guys have no fvcking idea how bad it is...
Wait, you just found out about this now?
 

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Are the demographics of where you are relocating to significantly different than where you are now?

Once you are actually in an area with more women to interact with, that actually match your preference, I suspect you will rise to meet the occasion just fine.

August may seem far off now. It’s coming. Hang in there.
 

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The simping is out of control. You guys have no fvcking idea how bad it is...
Women today think they are way above their actual league,thats why they dont settle for the average guy and think they deserve a man at least 2-3 classes above them and they dont date down.

Man on the other side will date down 2-3 classes which leads to 20% of the top tier men fvcking the upper 80% of the women while 80% of the men struggle to get at least dates with the 20% leftover-women and land whales.

f.e: a man thats a 7 will date women (for sex) that are a 4,5,6,7,8,9,10 , because he doesnt care as much as long its warm and wet
a women that is a 7 will date only men that are a 8,9 or 10, because she thinks she deserves it.

The problem for women is that men will not commit to the ones with lower SMV then they have themselve and thats why they get fvcked and dropped by the 20%-men.
 
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The problem has to be your demographics.

Here in the states, we have rural county type women and city type women. The mentality, attitude and behavior of these women are opposite of each other.

I'm certain that once you are in your element, the frustrations will vanish.

And by the way, I consider you to be one of the more intelligent members on the forum. Glad to see your return.
 

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While what you say is true, I have found that it is very easy to distinguish myself from those simps, and women respond VERY well to it. Yes women do love the attention and yes they have many guys constantly bombarding them, but the validation and good feelings they get from those kinds of guys is short-lived, and not very powerful. They can get by on it for a while but it's like if you love macaroni and cheese but then ended up having to live off it in a survival situation for months. After just a few days it would lose its appeal. The second thing to understand is that if you know your value, then you know you are better than 99% of those guys who are messaging her. And she knows it too.

If you are stuck doing online game - social media, online dating, etc, then you cannot really break free of being seriously impacted from the issue you spoke of. But when you can get out in the public and talk to women, and adjust your lifestyle so you are in a place where there are many of the kinds of women you like, and get yourself into hobbies/activities/sports that draw high quantities of those women, then this is where you can REALLY shine. The last girl I dated for a year was a stunner. She had guys messaging her CONSTANTLY, via Instagram, Facebook, Text Message, etc. I even dumped her a few times for crossing my boundaries (unrelated to her simps) and despite the fact that she had extreme abundance, she still begged me back for weeks and weeks until I gave her a second chance. This just proves that if you are a high-value man, women don't want those simps - they want the high value man.

Now there are exceptions to everything and I have certainly had an ex get with a beta orbiter before, but from a statistics standpoint, everything I say above is true. It isn't guaranteed, and nothing is forever, but it is very powerful and it works. Being bold, not being needy, talking to women, being comfortable talking to them, challenging them a little, not being easily impressed.... you do that and you've got yourself covered. Any woman who prefers the attention of her beta orbiters over dating a high-value man has screened herself out as not mentally sound and not dating material - she is a broken attention *****. Believe it or not, not all women are like this. Yes the trend is getting 1000x worse as time goes on thanks to social media, but there are still PLENTY of women out there who aren't that broken in this way.
 

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While what you say is true, I have found that it is very easy to distinguish myself from those simps, and women respond VERY well to it. Yes women do love the attention and yes they have many guys constantly bombarding them, but the validation and good feelings they get from those kinds of guys is short-lived, and not very powerful. They can get by on it for a while but it's like if you love macaroni and cheese but then ended up having to live off it in a survival situation for months. After just a few days it would lose its appeal. The second thing to understand is that if you know your value, then you know you are better than 99% of those guys who are messaging her. And she knows it too.

If you are stuck doing online game - social media, online dating, etc, then you cannot really break free of being seriously impacted from the issue you spoke of. But when you can get out in the public and talk to women, and adjust your lifestyle so you are in a place where there are many of the kinds of women you like, and get yourself into hobbies/activities/sports that draw high quantities of those women, then this is where you can REALLY shine. The last girl I dated for a year was a stunner. She had guys messaging her CONSTANTLY, via Instagram, Facebook, Text Message, etc. I even dumped her a few times for crossing my boundaries (unrelated to her simps) and despite the fact that she had extreme abundance, she still begged me back for weeks and weeks until I gave her a second chance. This just proves that if you are a high-value man, women don't want those simps - they want the high value man.

Now there are exceptions to everything and I have certainly had an ex get with a beta orbiter before, but from a statistics standpoint, everything I say above is true. It isn't guaranteed, and nothing is forever, but it is very powerful and it works. Being bold, not being needy, talking to women, being comfortable talking to them, challenging them a little, not being easily impressed.... you do that and you've got yourself covered. Any woman who prefers the attention of her beta orbiters over dating a high-value man has screened herself out as not mentally sound and not dating material - she is a broken attention *****. Believe it or not, not all women are like this. Yes the trend is getting 1000x worse as time goes on thanks to social media, but there are still PLENTY of women out there who aren't that broken in this way.
You used social circle game or cold approach? Out of everything you've said, the take-away is that online dating can not work and this puts you in the same position as @SW15, which inevitably points to massive cold-approaching for the likes of @AttackFormation, if social circle game is not an option. Unless you are elite-status / chad then online dating doesn't work. However, there is still a problem with mass cold-approaching is that it comes across as weak because you are CHASING the woman and have low-value from the get-go for doing that, and that there is a pandemic going on where you can't really approach girls in a free way unless you are going outdoors.
 

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Vacation spot...I highly recommend Prague. Women over there are not at all shallow and materialistic, like many American women.

I hooked up last time I was there, and then started to take a bath. She came in while I was in the tub and started bathing me.
In the mid-90s when I lived in Europe, Prague was the place to go. Not sure what it is like now but back then I've never in my life had so many drop dead gorgeous women throwing themselves at me. It was almost unbelievable.
 

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In the mid-90s when I lived in Europe, Prague was the place to go. Not sure what it is like now but back then I've never in my life had so many drop dead gorgeous women throwing themselves at me. It was almost unbelievable.
Anywhere major city in Eastern Europe is great. Though the women don't throw themselves at you.... until after you make the first move but once you do, then yeah. Eastern European women are incredible. Just walking around the street for an hour, I could see 100 women I would date. Here where I live in the states, I could walk around for 8 hours and might not see a single one. On average, American women are overweight while being entitled at the same time.
 

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You used social circle game or cold approach? Out of everything you've said, the take-away is that online dating can not work
Social circle and cold approach, but I don't go out specifically to cold approach any more - I just do it as an add-on to whatever else I'm doing as I go about my life. At a brewery with some friends and happen to see a cute girl? I'll go up and talk to her. Waiting in line at the grocery store and see a cute girl in front of me, I'll talk to her. Pass a cute girl on the sidewalk on my way to get a coffee, I'll talk to her.

Online dating CAN work but it's not for everyone and it's not for people who are frustrated with any aspect of their current dating life. I've used it in the past and slept with plenty of women from it but at my age, and given that I typically target and date women in their 20's, I get filtered out on online dating so I have much, much better results in real life. In addition, the things I mentioned in my previous post that I do that girls love are things you can't do in online dating - not until you meet them in-person.
 

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Just so we are clear, this will work for non-white black or mixed-with black guys too? Nobody want any disappointments, but I hear Filipinas are more racist than some white women are. I kid you not. 99.99% of Filipina escort ads all say "no blacks". These women basically worship white guys. I've never once heard any black poster speak highly or express any conquest with Asian women of any sort.
I will say there is some level of discrimination in Asian countries towards blacks. Mixed can work either way in Asian countries. Just tell them you are a cousin of Tiger Woods. LOL

If you are on the darker side, you might fare better in Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, Colombia.
 
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