"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Neil Strauss's THE GAME and RULES OF THE GAME
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
SandHawk
Master Don Juan
Nay, most of his books are built around an inferior set of routines and materials that is based on nothing. Read the DJ Bible and work on yourself. If you lack friends and are considered socially awkward(not saying that you are), it's better to work on those feats instead of learning yourself a bunch of routines that will eventually come back and bite you in the ass.
DJ Bible and the Book of Pook are all you need. And practice, a lot of practice.
DJ Bible and the Book of Pook are all you need. And practice, a lot of practice.
Absolutely yes..
Great reads. His writing is impeccible. Everything from the word choice to the way the stories are laid out are incredible.
The game is a story - Rules of the Game is a handbook/guide. I would suggest the former over the latter; Rules of the Game is more for people that are really slow/dumb with women and need serious advice on how to get things rolling. But The Game is a must-read.... It walks you through Neil's life and his journey to becoming a man basically.
Great reads. His writing is impeccible. Everything from the word choice to the way the stories are laid out are incredible.
The game is a story - Rules of the Game is a handbook/guide. I would suggest the former over the latter; Rules of the Game is more for people that are really slow/dumb with women and need serious advice on how to get things rolling. But The Game is a must-read.... It walks you through Neil's life and his journey to becoming a man basically.
Agree about the DJ Bible. But I've found that books that give me examples, which I can then personalize, are just as helpful.SandHawk said:Nay, most of his books are built around an inferior set of routines and materials that is based on nothing. Read the DJ Bible and work on yourself. If you lack friends and are considered socially awkward(not saying that you are), it's better to work on those feats instead of learning yourself a bunch of routines that will eventually come back and bite you in the ass.
DJ Bible and the Book of Pook are all you need. And practice, a lot of practice.
The DJ Bible is like the Macro version, these are the overarching concepts, the routines type stuff is the micro, what to do in specific situations, and it gives a guy that isn't terribly creative a little bit of a base to work off of, and by extension a little bit of extra confidence.
I'm not a fan of following routines, but everyone needs some go to stuff in case they are stuck.
Just my personal experience, though.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Badmannaz
Master Don Juan
i've got the book....its pretty good exposes all the other pua's lol
EvilAgenda
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"The Game" - entertaining read, more for fun than to learn anything.
"Rules" - never read it.
"Rules" - never read it.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.