DonGorgon
Master Don Juan
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^^^this applies to poor unattractive males only
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I think it has more to do with family than bullying. Kids from strict families that discipline them a lot tend to display socially awkward behavior later on in life.JaegerPilot217 said:I also heard that being bullied a lot in childhood can make a person socially awkward later on in life
It's both. The strict families produce a very quiet, studious kid that becomes a bigger target for bullying. So he gets shyte from his parents AND other kids.HowardHughesDicaprio said:I think it has more to do with family than bullying. Kids from strict families that discipline them a lot tend to display socially awkward behavior later on in life.
I guess it just snowballs early onMike32ct said:It's both. The strict families produce a very quiet, studious kid that becomes a bigger target for bullying. So he gets shyte from his parents AND other kids.
Even if the kid never gets bullied per se, being ignored and left out will F him up over time and make him more socially awkward.
It's all the perfect storm for social awkwardness. It starts out genetic as Pair says, then add in the strict parents like HHD just said, then add in being rejected/ignored and/or bullied as I noted, and you sadly may have an intelligent kid with potential being royally screwed socially and even career-wise through no fault of his own.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You see this happen in certain cultures a lot more often, particularly with Asians and Indians here in America. Middle Eastern guys get it to a small extent but their dads raise them to be more masculine. Indians and Asians have those overly protective kind of parents that beat them for the smallest things, make them socially awkward, and in the end you have a kid with the best grades and even a degree from a good university that struggles with women. I think your post might have explained why we have so many Asian and Indian AFCs who whine about not being able to get girls of other races.Mike32ct said:It's both. The strict families produce a very quiet, studious kid that becomes a bigger target for bullying. So he gets shyte from his parents AND other kids.
Even if the kid never gets bullied per se, being ignored and left out will F him up over time and make him more socially awkward.
It's all the perfect storm for social awkwardness. It starts out genetic as Pair says, then add in the strict parents like HHD just said, then add in being rejected/ignored and/or bullied as I noted, and you sadly may have an intelligent kid with potential being royally screwed socially and even career-wise through no fault of his own.
Yes, success stories do exist but they are not common. Most of these kids (Asians and Indians) will go off to well respected schools and have their parents pay for their college. A lot of them will probably major in what their parents demand they major in and then live socially awkward lives in college that involve studying, junk food, and videogames. Most of these guys will walk out of college as virgins and not realize they just missed out on the best 4 years of their lives. Reason being that these guys were too busy trying to convince themselves that their nerdy lifestyle was superior, they longed for the hot girls on campus but had no realistic shot of being with them. They will continue to sham the idea of getting laid in college and pre-marital sex while deeply wanting it.JaegerPilot217 said:I guess it just snowballs early on
Yes, this applied to me. When you go to school, and you get treated like crap, it affects your self esteem. Way worse when you are younger. The scars lasted a long time. I had difficulty in college due to this. I never really hung out with more than a couple close friends and never did I have any success with women. I didnt lose my virginity until 29! I know, its embarassing, but its the truth. But it all changed tho, thanks to this site, and changes I made for myself. I'm no longer an introvert, no longer a chump like I used to be. I have friends, I have women. I was a late bloomer but it's all worth it now.JaegerPilot217 said:I also heard that being bullied a lot in childhood can make a person socially awkward later on in life
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Glad you changed thatdonjuanapprentice01 said:Yes, this applied to me. When you go to school, and you get treated like crap, it affects your self esteem. Way worse when you are younger. The scars lasted a long time. I had difficulty in college due to this. I never really hung out with more than a couple close friends and never did I have any success with women. I didnt lose my virginity until 29! I know, its embarassing, but its the truth. But it all changed tho, thanks to this site, and changes I made for myself. I'm no longer an introvert, no longer a chump like I used to be. I have friends, I have women. I was a late bloomer but it's all worth it now.