"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Needing sum Kino Techniques for Coffee Date

Hoogie

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I've been studying Kino a lot lately cause i really think it is the edge I need in my game.

But I've been thinking and I can't think of any ways to use Kino in a "Kino Escalation" kinda way for a coffee date.

I dont want to go in too hardcore so I think anything to do with feet may not go down to well.... I was thinking maybe sumthing suttle with hands, but I'm not sure what... and suggestions?

Cheers :up:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Hoogie

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sooooooo no replies.... does that mean no1 has any techniques or its just so simple no1 can b bothered posting??
 

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I'm going to tell you the best way to begin Kino, and lays down the groundwork, it saves a lot of those 'err, uhh' phases.

When you see her, open your arms and give her a hug.
 

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A good kino technique if you can work it in a relaxed, sincere way is to replace a strand of hair behind her ear or remove a piece of fluff from her clothes or something. This is a subconscious boyfriend technique. Also act and feel like her boyfriend (but dont say it obviously!!) and she'll tend to warm to the idea and decide that you've 'clicked'. Be lighthearted and fun and make a few gentle non-sexual touches. Just be warned about that girlfriend acting and feeling thing. It works! You wanna make sure that you want to be stuck with her for a few years!!
 

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A good kino technique if you can work it in a relaxed, sincere way is to replace a strand of hair behind her ear
ok so lets say i'm talking to her and this happens.

Me:so how as your day?
her: blah blah blah
Me: uh huh, uh huh *nod a lot* then say....don't move! *move piece of hair that was in front her face to the back of her ear*...then smile and tell her to continue.

something like that?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Use the coffee date as a qualifier. Don't make it too long, maybe 30-45 minutes. If you like the woman you're interacting with, take her somewhere else where you can initiate Kino. Take her window shopping, to get some ice cream, and initiate kino then.

If you don't like her, end the coffee date and go home.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Desdinova said:
Use the coffee date as a qualifier. Don't make it too long, maybe 30-45 minutes. If you like the woman you're interacting with, take her somewhere else where you can initiate Kino. Take her window shopping, to get some ice cream, and initiate kino then.

If you don't like her, end the coffee date and go home.
:up:

I'll add that this does mean that you will have to talk with her to qualify her before attempting to grope her goodies. Interaction is key to qualifying. Too many recent posts to the forum have attempted to mislead people into believing that you can gain ground during the initial meeting without talking. :down:
 
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