Need some serious help regarding getting 2nd dates

[BackInTheGame78]

Had been doing fairly well, but back to the same issues as previously now...

Date seemingly is going great, girl really into me, initiating touching, kissing, etc...big time makeout at end of night, then either get crickets from her when I text a few days later or end up not getting her out for a second date.

Something is up and I can't put my finger on it. I'm a fairly good looking guy, muscular and look much younger than I am(turned 40 but could pass for 30 or 31). I'm definitely sexual, I have no issues smacking their ass, squeezing it, touching the inside of their thighs and rubbing up and down, touching the outside of their boobs, whispering in their ear, etc while giving them a massage...

I need to figure out why the woman goes from being totally into me on the date to not wanting to see me again during the time period after the date ends to me contacting them again. I mean this sh!t should not be that hard. It's pretty easy to get 2nd dates. I'm not some ugly @ss guy who is being "nice" or afraid to express his sexuality. I bust on them, tease them, push-pull...I do pretty dominant manly things like grab their chairs and pull them towards me, grab them and sit them on my lap, shove them up against a wall/car door while making out with them, etc...it all works while the date is going on, but then somehow they decide they don't want to see me again afterwards.

I don't act needy, I don't text/call them too much, I am pretty much following everything that theoretically should work...

I am at a loss as to what is happening. It is really starting to frustrate me. I mean I hear about these loser @ss dudes who do everything wrong getting second dates and I'm like WTF?? They would rather go out with those dudes again than me? I don't get it...

I need serious help figuring out what I am doing wrong. Don't want to hear its just bad luck or a bad streak or whatever. This has happened way too many times for it to be some streak...there is something definitively that is going on that they don't like. Please help me figure this out, its killing my game.

 

[skinnyguy]

This kinda sounds desperate.

Just don't be like the PUA faggots who spend hundreds of hours talking about game just for one lay.

Look on the bright side, you're apparently good looking and able to pull first dates. A lot of guys can't even pull that.

 

[Soolaimon]

I'm definitely sexual, I have no issues smacking their ass, squeezing it, touching the inside of their thighs and rubbing up and down, touching the outside of their boobs, whispering in their ear, etc while giving them a massage...

I do pretty dominant manly things like grab their chairs and pull them towards me, grab them and sit them on my lap, shove them up against a wall/car door while making out with them, etc...it all works while the date is going on, but then somehow they decide they don't want to see me again afterwards.

Being dominant is good but maybe you're being too dominant for your own good on the first date and these women aren't taking to it after.

Get these women inside your place (or theirs) and shove them up against the wall making out with them carrying them to the bedroom.

Easiest way for sex when your dominating indoors where sex can happen.

Kind of hard to do that outdoors unless you get in the car or you suggest going back to your or her place for more action.

Infact that could be part of your problem too. You're getting all sexual but not closing the deal. If you're getting good make outs don't be afraid to continue it leading to sex. Always suggest going back after good acton.

Don't over think it and also don't be afraid not to talk to them after the date.

 

[ubercat]

Heheh - if its bugging u shag them on the first date. Do micro-dates, dominance, kino, cold reading, palmistry - whatever it takes. I used to have about a 50% strike rate and I'm not a DJ's behind wen it comes to game. Pre-select it - be sexy when yr making the date.

Only thing is I normally had them disappear after a couple of months if I did this. I think they go into this I'm a nice girl/I'm a slut death spiral in their heads. If she's possibly a keeper wait for the 2nd date.

 

[ubercat]

Ah and a couple of tips that I'm not proud of but worked.
Shove them gently up against a door - makes a great noise but you won't hurt them (make sure u don't hit the handle - ouch)
I also used to have a school on the way to my place - did same thing against the chain fence. Makes a great tinkly sound - cushions the impact and is kind of gangsta.
Obviously check their reaction out with Kino first unless u want your next g/f to be called big bob. Once again I wouldn't pull this on a 1st date if I thought the girl had potential.

 

[Masculinity]

I think this is a pretty common issue. What I see in your writing is a bit too much sexual dominance. You can't just be sexual all the time; you have to talk to them, caress them, listen to what they say, etc. I would tone down the talk about "losers getting girls," as it makes you sound insecurely arrogant. The truth is, some women will like you and some won't. Trying to figure out why each one doesn't call back is not a matter of disseminating the interaction, it's a matter of figuring out what YOU, the common element in these dates, are doing that can be corrected (see above).

 

[Harry Wilmington]

I'm definitely sexual, I have no issues smacking their ass, squeezing it, touching the inside of their thighs and rubbing up and down, touching the outside of their boobs, whispering in their ear, etc while giving them a massage...

This, my friend, is where you're messing up. Believe it or not, a woman will be more apt to actually come on to YOU and push the sexual envelope... if you spend most of the date NOT focusing on doing these things. Real talk: in the last few years, most of my hook-ups went like this:

*First date: no sexual talk or touching until the end, when I go in for the kiss and have a make-out session (lasting anywhere from 1 min to 25 min)... but no pushing for sex.

*Second date (or sometimes between the first and second date), we have sex

Now, how is it I was able to score so fast despite not actually pushing a sexual agenda? Simple: by NOT going in for it so fast, you play on a woman's ego. She's used to having guys trying to bed her on date one, so when you don't, it's both a relief - "Finally, a guy that's not trying to have me just for sex" - and a blow to how hot she judges herself to be based on guys trying to sleep with her - "Wait, he's not trying to sleep with me? Why? Am I not attractive enough? Did I do something wrong? Did I turn him off?? What gives??" And when that happens, she feels obligated to prove to herself that you find her attractive enough to try and bed... which will usually result in HER trying to bed YOU on the 2nd or 3rd date.

I swear, this works like clockwork - but again: if you just lessen down on all the sexual talk/touching/grabbing/innuendo and really just focus on showing these women a good time on date 1, the sex WILL come (no pun intended) - and just because it doesn't happen on date 1 or 2 doesn't mean it's not building up in her to want to sleep with you. So, be more patient, tone the sex stuff down a bit, and see what happens. Hope this helps!