"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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need some mature advice

newbie81

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Originally posted by jigga23
Ok quick bg: broke up with GF with her almost 2 years. lived with her for about 8 months. broke up 2 weeks ago. (she needed time to herself, cause she has to write her thesis to get her masters this semester) understandable. I moved about 1hour away from her. Ive talked to her about5-6 times in the last 2 weeks. Saw her last week to drop of the dog. When I saw her acted standoffish then opened up a little. Slept over but i didnt try to do anything with her. We kissed earlier in the night thats it. I just went straight to bed. The next morning we got in a bad argument over pointless sh!t. dont know the exact reason. This last week I called her once but didnt even talk to her. She called me sat to b1tch about something. Then we eventually planned that she would come down so i could take the dog for a week. So she comes down yesterday. When she came i acted all happy and everything didnt bring up any thing about our relationship just acted normal. I was laying in bed with no intention of trying to fvck her so as im laying there she initiates and lays close to me and we give a mutual kiss on the lips and she pulls me on her and we start to bone. she gets off and was going crazy saying "i dont know even were I am right now" I railed her and we cuddled. When i woke up she left and she came over to give me a kiss on the lips. Things seemed pretty good overall.

Heres the question: I dont konw what she wants from me. I dont know if shes doing other guys or anything. im not going to ask atleast not right now But i do want to have her back as my gf. Should i just not bring up the topic...not call her at all only answer if she calls. Basically just turn my back on her just to play it like im not interested in her then on valentines day plan something very romantic with her and ask her if she wants to get back together?I dont think neither of us want to cut it off any other suggestions

she's done with you. forget her.

peace.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Desdinova

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Heres the question: I dont konw what she wants from me. I dont know if shes doing other guys or anything.
You'll quit caring about what she's doing if you quit contacting her. Let her have the dog and cut ALL ties with her. You're letting her drag the ending of this relationship through the mud. It's over.
 
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