"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Need some help, LTR is "ending"

IllaD

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Okay so basically I haven't been here in a while. Everything has been going real good, I got a sexy girlfriend, dated her, broke up with her, and started dating this chick that I met through Hillel, the jewish org. on campus.

She's like the whole package, she's really funny, nice, caring, doesn't deal with ANY drama, we share the same interests (for the most part), conversations go very well, she's a masters student: basically the whole package, right?

So since like July, when I came back from Israel I noticed she's been like.. or really the relationship has been like.... more distant. I'll see her less and less, and either i'm busy (i'm not) or she's busy, (im not sure, she might be).

Basically this has been going on for a while, and we ended up having a RDT last night. It kind of sucked, real bad. We broke up, or whatnot. She said she "doesn't feel that spark, and isn't sure if she ever did". She doesn't want to have sex anymore, we tried and for her it was just mechanical.

I think I lost some kind of raw sexuality, some kind of masculinity, some kind of power by being a nice, caring boyfriend. Too much rolling over on my back I think. I'm not sure. Then I left, to go drinking or something, it really was on my mind and I was real hurt. I texted her to ask her how she felt, and she said it really sucks.

I ended up going over there last night at like 2 am, which i knew i shouldn't have and sleeping with her, in her bed. She wanted me to. I am so confused yall. So she DOESN'T want to have sex because she doesnt see me that way, but she DOES want to cuddle, and not dating me is "painful" or "sucky" for her. Maybe there is hope yet.

Any ideas on how a once alpha male can regain his status, because I really don't want to lose her. Nexting would I think be a real downgrade. Really do love this girl, so cmon, any ideas on how to "rekindle" that kind of jank. :kick:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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f283000

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Start spinning plates. When a woman has you under control that's when it's over. When you're out talking to other women, gaming other women, your whole mentality changes.

She might not know you're spinning plates but it's almost as if women can smell it. They can smell you're a wanted man, they can smell that you have other women in your life, and that attracts them!

Go out, have fun, talk to women, notice your mentality change from a guy worried about losing her to a guy with other options that is full of life, notice her attraction for you change.
 

sinnerman

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first and foremost go Limited Contact/No Contact. Let her initiate all the conversation. Make sure that you don't talk about sadness and being depressed around her(even if you're). Make sure that she knows you're living your life.
Once you breakup its generally over for most parts.

Ive had this type of gal. though i was able to stretch it out with her for 6-7 more months it eventually ends so its upto you. and yea start interacting with other gals on the side.
 

IllaD

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Guess im going with limited/no contact. It really blows though, I'm so depressed. I havent been this sad over a girl, ever. She's the most wifable girl i've ever met, so I know that its gonna be a HARD replacement. :trouble:
 

TopGun2000

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nobody is irreplaceable :rockon:

if she has no interests in you then she has no value to you at all :nono:

IllaD said:
Guess im going with limited/no contact. It really blows though, I'm so depressed. I havent been this sad over a girl, ever. She's the most wifable girl i've ever met, so I know that its gonna be a HARD replacement. :trouble:
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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