Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I second this motion.MikeBrown30 said:SHUT THE FVCK UP, you don't help yourself, how the fvck can you help other people? You don't understand how angry I get everytime I read one of your posts, YOU FVCKING FAIL AT LIFE. Doesn't God want you to be the best GODDAMN person you can possibly be in your lifetime? Can you please take a photo between your legs, so I can see if you actually have balls or not.
You need to learn that you aren't always right, nor is your mother or your father. You need to learn that you can be WRONG, your mother can be WRONG, your father, WRONG. Tell me where all the advice your mother has given to you over your life has landed you? Low self-esteem, just about ZERO experience with women, still live at home, and fvcking openly discuss things with your parents to get their permission.
It's lucky you aren't in my part of the world, I guarantee by now I would beaten the sh!t out of you, and made you change.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Alright, I third this, but I had a WTF moment.CaptainJ said:I second this motion.
Yeah,it kind of threw me off for a second too. I was like,"Why is he talking to the OP like that? If he (the OP) had been a member here for a long time,and all he did was make thread after thread complaining about his situation instead of trying to change it,then yeah,I could see where this would be appropiate".comic_relief said:Alright, I third this, but I had a WTF moment.
I though Mike said it to the OP and I was like "WHAT. THE. FVCK!" I then had to go back and realize that he was talking about Luke Skywalker. I was like, "THAT IS FVCKEN AWESOME!"
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Luke,I WISH you would stop talking about that thing.Luke Skywalker said:I have a fleshlight in the basement though. They are good. Have you tried one of them?
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
I didn't say it's a disease, I said it's a condition. And it is a condition with psychological origins that can be treated and perhaps reversed if done in time. But like I said, there's no time to waste with this. The longer one remains in such a situation, the further off the tracks they'll be in having even the most basic of social skills making it a vicious cycle. It's up to the 39 year old virgin to change his situation and I think just like anyone with a severe psychological condition, it's important to understand how they got there, as well as take steps to change the situation. That said, his love shy condition is not just some simple thing to be tweaked and fixed like having bad game or bad f*ck closes, this dude needs a complete overall of his life, his mind, his financial situation, his image and who he is on the inside. It's a tall order at his age but anything is possible. I think the links I recommended to him will get him started down the path of education himself and then doing something about it.ssj4halo said:dont make him think he has a disease. That'll give him an excuse. He is at fault here because he didn't make a change until today when he told us about his situation.
What he needs is to READ the dj bible inside out. understand it. Then ask questions for clarifications. See a therapist if he has any issues. On top of that, the most important part of all, he needs to become a new man. sellf-improvement. Change your clothes, get a job, hit the gym(if you want), change the way you walk, are your shoulders slouched?, etc.
And while he does all these thigns, he has to keep approaching women. This is not a DISEASE. Its just the sum of bad social conditioning, AFCness, and a bunch load of bad luck. You can do this man. Its been done by 100s of guys with similar situtations.
I will be famous and thats on the real....Becomin a Rap/Porno/Video Game/Movie star a.s.a.p.Maxtro said:...Hell I seriously doubt that anybody on this forum will ever become famous.
One more link I forgot to add and it's important:39year_old_virgin said:Thanks for the advice, I will check out those links and reading material. What got me realizing just what an AFC I had been, and how badly I have screwed up with women in the past, is that I found a copy of Ron Luis and Davic Copelands book "How to Succeed with Women" at a used bookstore I was browsing. After reading it I found out I basically made every mistake in the book in my seduction attmpts, and why I made it. It is also the reason I got on the internet and found this site.
All the other books I read before like "Dating for Dummies" and a few others out there I think were more geared to women and didn't help me much. However, I will certainly look at the links you guys gave me. I hope it isn't too late to undo the stupid way I have acted up to now.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
yes you did mate. But I guess you didn't mean it.speakeasy said:I know about this stuff because at one point much earlier in life I was in your situation. I cured myself. This was long ago now, but I educated myself on the situation and took steps to do something about it. I ended up losing my virginity and started dating women. I've been seeing a girl for the last year and a half or so. Granted, I liken the situation to falling in quicksand, the longer you linger in it, the harder it will be to get out. It will be magnitudes harder for a 40 year old virgin to cure the problem than a 20 year old with the same exact problem. Curing this disease earlier will be much easier. But don't get caught up in worrying about the past. I lament the fact that I didn't learn about DJ skills when I was in high school, but that's all water under the bridge. You can't change the past, accept it. But the future is not written in stone and you must take responsibility for it. Good luck to you and keep us updated on your progress.
Ah my bad. Yah, didn't mean it in literal sense. Just like someone might say "the disease of hatred" or something.ssj4halo said:yes you did mate. But I guess you didn't mean it.
Wanna hear a good tip? Don't listen to this guyLuke Skywalker said:Well, hats off to you for now, if you are not a troll. I thought I was the oldest virgin on here. Guess I stand to be corrected.
I have a fleshlight in the basement though. They are good. Have you tried one of them?
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.