"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Ok, so I keep having these dates lining up from OKC.

The new HB7 or so, she's like, hey, let's meet for a drink tomorrow at 6.

I couldn't make 6, so I suggested 7:30 or later.

Now she's like, hey, that's dinner time! let's meet for food and drinks in this area and blah blah.

FFS. I'm so done with dinner as a first date with these women. It's breaking me financially. They expect me to pick up the tab and it costs 50 bucks or more every time ( including gas ).

I would still like to meet this woman. But I don't want to come off as a cheapskate either. Now what? I need some quick suggestions as to how to turn this around into just a drink outing again.

I'm seriously over this dinner thing unless it's happy hour and I can escape for 25 bucks or less. It just gets too expensive and I don't even know these people. I'm not a meal ticket.

So what now? How do I still meet this woman without having it turn into a spendy dinner date -yet again.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I just said I couldn't make dinner tomorrow but that I could meet for drinks after at 8:30 or I could meet up at 6 on another day.
 

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LOL, I am being cheap. Fvck this ****. I'm done with dinner dates as a first date UNLESS I've already met the woman and I know we already have some chemistry.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Humor man humor.

She says let's get dinner you say something like, you've got to earn that privilege, or my mother told me it's rude to invite yourself to dinner/ did your mother tell you it's rude to invite yourself to dinner? etc.

She's imposing her frame here by trying to turn drinks into dinner. You need to keep control of the frame, by shutting it down. She'll respect you more and it will lead to a faster move into the sac.
 

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Good point 411. She certainly did attempt to turn drinks into dinner. Something to watch out for! I could have gone the humor route. Perhaps next time I'll try it.

I definitely shut the dinner option down. Now I'm just waiting to hear back.
I'll update as long as I don't run out of posts ( which has happened to me here before - 10 limit within a certain amount of time? )
 
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