"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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TheGambino

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Just start up some small talk with her, let her know you have to be somewhere but would like continue this at another time.

See if she offers you her phone number after you say that. If she does its an indicator of high interest...if not it doesnt necessarily mean she isnt interested...follow it up with something like "Give me your number and we will set something up."

Don't overthink this...just act like talking to people like this is normal and no big deal. Because it is normal and really isnt a big deal.
I number closed over 500 times or more but This one is harder because shes working at the college Im a student and theres students and teachers everywhere. Friday ill close her for sure whenever I see her Im approaching
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Option 2: That is what I do... whatever it is that I find interesting about her that's what I lead with. Just today I met a woman in an elevator in one of the buildings a client of mine is in. I'd never met her before or even seen her, but she had nice hair. So I said..

"I think I've seen you before, but your hair was different... I really like the way it looks now, what's your name?"

Chicks are always fvcking with their hair, so it's a safe bet that sometime in the month she did something different. If she smiles and thanks you and give you her name... you are good. If she starts playing with her hair and asks for your name as well, go for a date. Otherwise ask for her number. Then go from there.

Good luck... however, a word of caution. You are definitely overthinking this chick WAY too much... you need to take action quick otherwise you could find yourself in an un-centered fixation.
 

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I number closed over 500 times or more but This one is harder because shes working at the college Im a student and theres students and teachers everywhere. Friday ill close her for sure whenever I see her Im approaching
No its not. You are simply making it harder by trying to reason that its somehow different than any other time. Its not. You are simply making it harder than it is.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I number closed over 500 times or more but This one is harder because shes working at the college Im a student and theres students and teachers everywhere. Friday ill close her for sure whenever I see her Im approaching
You have been on this forum way too long to be this clueless lol.

Dude.. you sound 15.
 

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You have been on this forum way too long to be this clueless lol.

Dude.. you sound 15.
Right. Like dude just start up a convo with her and then try to exchange numbers or even better......offer her to dinner or something similar at let's say some local event or networking event. That's really all there is to it as this is a numbers game.

And the student dating the teacher thing is only "gross" in high school.
 

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Im at school today, looks like shes not working. She always passes the atrium, not today. Damn it I wanted to number close her because next week we have vacation and I know she will be availble.

Should I contact her on facebook?
im serious ...

something like: Hey noticed your cute smile at school haha, how are you? or wanna meet up for a drink?

Or just be patient wait a week or two to meet her at school again?
 

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Im at school today, looks like shes not working. She always passes the atrium, not today. Damn it I wanted to number close her because next week we have vacation and I know she will be availble.

Should I contact her on facebook?
im serious ...

something like: Hey noticed your cute smile at school haha, how are you? or wanna meet up for a drink?

Or just be patient wait a week or two to meet her at school again?
Just be patient and do it in person. It will be much better.
 

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Update:

I talked to her.

Went something like this:

Me: Hey can I ask you a question?
Her: yeah sure
Me: What do You do here?
Her: duduududud and You?
Me: Nice I worked in a foreign country for two years now Im back to finish study
Her: Nice
Me: You always walk by with your cute smile but I never knew what you do here
Her: Hahahah okay..
her: you joined us once to a event right?
Me: nop You got the wrong Guy haha(def not me)
Me: so What do You like to do?
Her: travel, go out, go to the beach, Im a women so women things
Her: jeez What a questions lol
Me: I noticed You on the beach in x location once haha
Her: that’s possible
Me: Im sure with a wink
Me: Nice, since I never noticed You downtown I wanted to know where You go out
Her: yeah I dont go on regular saturdays only When theres something fun to do
Me: Aight sounds good
Me: Well see You around
Her: yeah goodluck on your study

She was a bit in a hurry, laughing and smiling but she wasnt leaning over or staying Kinda trying to go on her way I think..

So I couldnt ask for her number, she was too much pointing her body to the other side so I didnt go for the number close..

Not sure what to think but iT seemed like she Enjoyed the convo with the smiles All the way.

Edit: she walks by my table again when she left the building. I was getting a sandwich damnit... I was planning on asking her what her name is and her number when I saw her again but faith decided that I missed her.

Notice: She never leaves the building from this point im pretty sure she wanted to pass me again, I see it as interest.

Could I know reach out on befriend her and reach out on facebook message?
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Update:

I talked to her.

Went something like this:

Me: Hey can I ask you a question?
Her: yeah sure
Me: What do You do here?
Her: duduududud and You?
Me: Nice I worked in a foreign country for two years now Im back to finish study
Her: Nice
Me: You always walk by with your cute smile but I never knew what you do here
Her: Hahahah okay..
her: you joined us once to a event right?
Me: nop You got the wrong Guy haha(def not me)
Me: so What do You like to do?
Her: travel, go out, go to the beach, Im a women so women things
Her: jeez What a questions lol
Me: I noticed You on the beach in x location once haha
Her: that’s possible
Me: Im sure with a wink
Me: Nice, since I never noticed You downtown I wanted to know where You go out
Her: yeah I dont go on regular saturdays only When theres something fun to do
Me: Aight sounds good
Me: Well see You around
Her: yeah goodluck on your study

She was a bit in a hurry, laughing and smiling but she wasnt leaning over or staying Kinda trying to go on her way I think..

So I couldnt ask for her number, she was too much pointing her body to the other side so I didnt go for the number close..

Not sure what to think but iT seemed like she Enjoyed the convo with the smiles All the way.

Edit: she walks by my table again when she left the building. I was getting a sandwich damnit... I was planning on asking her what her name is and her number when I saw her again but faith decided that I missed her.

Notice: She never leaves the building from this point im pretty sure she wanted to pass me again, I see it as interest.

Could I know reach out on befriend her and reach out on facebook message?
Do not do any Beta Facebook message or communication.

You started the conversation in person, you finish it in person.

After all the convo, you didn't ask her name? Am I right?

Good job on the convo, build it up from there. Don't rush things and let her feel that she has a value of an HB10.
 
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