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Background:
I am a senior at my university. We are known for our terrible guy to girl ratio (8:1 or there about) I am also in NROTC and commission in May.

Story:
So three weeks ago, during freshman move in I meet this HB8 freshman. We hit it off immediately. Turns out she is in army rotc too. She is easily the coolest chick i have ever met, and I am not just saying that due to oneitis (which I will readily admit that I have).

She has some serious trust and intimacy issues due to a ****ty childhood/past relationships though.

Anyway, her and I have hung at for at least a couple hours each day, between classes or whatever. She lives on campus, I don't so i just go there to BS and kill time.

It had been really hard to Kino escalate over the first two weeks, then last weekend she spends the night at my place. we passed out on the couch watching a movie, so nothing happened but a lot of touching. That has been par for the last week. The last two nights she has been in lingerie on my bed spooning cuddling kissing...

BUT HERE IS THE WIERD PART...We will both be all over each other- me playing with her tits or kissing her neck, her wrapping her legs around me, etc. Whenever I try to kiss her on the lips, she says no stop. so i just continue kissing and groping, maybe work my way lower towards her hips, then same thing. Repeat this paragraph about 75 times each night, lol.

She obviously wants to do this too, claims she is not a virgin (I believe her), but says she likes me too much to hook up with me and it not turn into a relationship. Which is fine with me, she is an awesome girl. However, she also says she doesn't want a relationship in college, at least freshman year with a guy who will be out of here in a year. Yet she still comes over again and we repeat the last part.

Right now I am just gonna let her simmer today and tomorrow and resume tuesday night maybe. Any insight into the mad mind of this girl would be deeply appreciated.
 

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Maybe try to cancel on her 1 or 2 times? Show her that you're not THAT interesting and maybe explain her that you don't want a LTR either, if you haven't already! She ain't the prize, you are! Let her understand this and I think she'll come kiss you on the lips! :)
 

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volkme68 said:
So three weeks ago, during freshman move in I meet this HB8 freshman. We hit it off immediately. Turns out she is in army rotc too. She is easily the coolest chick i have ever met, and I am not just saying that due to oneitis (which I will readily admit that I have).

Yes you are.... oneitis gives you tunnel vision, any girl you meet you compare to this chick. Its part of the disease...

She has some serious trust and intimacy issues due to a ****ty childhood/past relationships though.

RED FUVKIN' FLAG!!! HELLLLO ARE YOU LISTENING.... DANGER DANGER!!!!


BUT HERE IS THE WIERD PART...We will both be all over each other- me playing with her tits or kissing her neck, her wrapping her legs around me, etc. Whenever I try to kiss her on the lips, she says no stop. so i just continue kissing and groping, maybe work my way lower towards her hips, then same thing. Repeat this paragraph about 75 times each night, lol.

She's got issues bro! Not going to say exactly what because it could be a variety of things (rape, molested etc) but she has a MAJOR FEAR OF INTIMACY due to something $hitty that happened in her past.... This alone makes her fuvk buddy material AT BEST, a relationship with this trainwreck shouldn't even be in your mind, unless you enjoy self torture.

She obviously wants to do this too, claims she is not a virgin (I believe her), but says she likes me too much to hook up with me and it not turn into a relationship.

LOL... think about what she said. Does that make any sense??? A mentally healthy girl wants to hook up with the guy she likes, just as much as the guy does. This is another example of her giving you a preview of her issues..

Which is fine with me, she is an awesome girl.

Clearly your a rookie, with not much experience. I'm not saying that to bash you, I'm pointing it out to help you realize that your not catching ALL these red flags that she's displaying, instead your choosing to ignore them and live in one-itis for crazy chick land.

However, she also says she doesn't want a relationship in college, at least freshman year with a guy who will be out of here in a year. Yet she still comes over again and we repeat the last part.

But I thought she liked you too much??? Do you see her contradictions???

Right now I am just gonna let her simmer today and tomorrow and resume tuesday night maybe. Any insight into the mad mind of this girl would be deeply appreciated.

You will drown in her misery if you continue pursuing this head-case. She's fuvk buddy material AT BEST!!! I'm repeating that so it is embedded in your head. The only way you can hang with b-itches like this is if your NOT emotionally invested. Your BEYOND invested and will only ended up getting hurt if you continue..... I PROMISE![/QUOTE]




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Lol you are doing it wrong by continuing to persue her after she says no...



Do the freeze out on her.... !

When you are kissing her and she says no you stop everything get up and turn on the tv. Dont cuddle or anything. If she says whats wrong you tell her she said no. here just watch this video and itll get you laid ...
mystery method ... watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dnBTnKArbk
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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Master JJ said:
Stay away from women with baggage and crappy pasts. Period.
Agreed. Trust me on this one. I really got f*cked over by someone this summer, and what made it worse is that she didn't even mean to do so, it's just what girls with a lot of baggage do unconsciously.

8 to 1 ratio sucks, though... I can see why this would be tempting!
 

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Yeah I think freeze out is next. I know her past, it isn't anything that crazy. Just daddy never around and mom had her own issues. I understand the risks, and have picked up on the red flags here, hence including them in the post deliberately. As to tunnel vision, well all my buddys like her, and they are tough judges so oh well.

I appreciate the concern guys, but I wasn't posting here for advice on to NEXT her or not. I don't want to next her yet. My choice, I will deal with the consequences later. I am just looking for some advice on how to close this girl.

If everyone NEXTd every chick with issues, the human race would have fizzled out long ago.
 

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Prodigy746, thanks man. That video answered my question pretty well I think
 

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volkme68 said:
Yeah I think freeze out is next. I know her past, it isn't anything that crazy. Just daddy never around and mom had her own issues. I understand the risks, and have picked up on the red flags here, hence including them in the post deliberately. As to tunnel vision, well all my buddys like her, and they are tough judges so oh well.

LOL!!! Inexperience talking here..... Answer this; if a guy has many different options (women) to choose from, why would he settle for the rotten one out of the bunch??

I appreciate the concern guys, but I wasn't posting here for advice on to NEXT her or not.

One-itis does that.... complete tunnel vision, ignoring red flags ALWAYS comes back to bite you in the @ss 100x worse if you get involved later.

I don't want to next her yet. My choice, I will deal with the consequences later. I am just looking for some advice on how to close this girl.

Your playing with fire and you WILL get burned, 100% guarantee...

If everyone NEXTd every chick with issues, the human race would have fizzled out long ago.

Using logic to try and justify your AFC actions.... not good! Best of luck with this girl dude, but you've been warned.



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