"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Need help with shy 19 yr old hb9

timmylivingalie

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She stares at me but when I make eye contact she looks away. Normally I would approach her but her family is very protective. How should I go about this?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Styr

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And here I was thinking, that me hitting on a 19 year old was bad. :)
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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pierce_r

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I'm nailing a 22 year old. And well, to hear her tell it.

When I first met her, she was still in high school. WE DID NOT **** BACK THEN. We hooked up a couple of years ago. This is also not a romantic thing between us. She's across the country at college, certainly taking her share of scalps. When she's home for break, what we have is purely physical and fun. (It's also on the DL because her father is an acquaintance of mine through my yacht club. And he's about my age.)

You have to let her come to you.

A girl who's interested in a man your age (important words, there: "girl" and "man") will let you know that she's interested. She will go out of her way to make it easy for you; they are much smarter, and wilier, and better educated about sex and relationships, than you ever were at that age. Probably more than you are, now, judging from your post.

Staring at you is not an invitation. The young one that I'm hitting pushed me against a wall with her tongue down my throat and started taking my shirt off. That's how I learned she was interested.

Me: "Hey, let's talk about this."
Her: "No."
Me: "Okay."

If you get pushback, or no signals, and you keep moving forward? Brother, you're wrong. You're seriously wrong.

If you hit on a girl that young, you might as well call Chris Hansen and let him know when and where you plan to approach her to make your move so that he can have his camera crew ready. Because that's how you're going to come off.

I would suggest, if you're not getting signals, that you back off. Now. Immediately. You can really screw up a girl that age if she's not ready and you're not careful. You can damage her for life. No joke.

She's staring at you?

Give her five years. She'll figure it out. Move on.
 
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