"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Need help! Plate will come over today, but "only drink, no sex"

Lion1985

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She just send me message that she accept to visit me today but only for drinking
What should i write her back?
How to handle this correctly and get layd finally?
Or if she says only come over to drink = no chance for sex?
Need help from experts, thanks!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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MtnMan

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i would just say 'ok', have her come over, drink with her and escalate as usual.
If a woman comes to your home and drinks with you, sex is usually an option. Do not pay attention to the words, watch the actions. Have you had sex with her before? This sounds like a **** test. I would ignore and push on with what I wanted.
 

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Oldest trick in the book.

I've had one say 'if you come round im being honest i'll probably just go straight to sleep im tired'... just agree and know full well it's bull****.
 

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I agree with with all above. It's her anti slut defense. Get a few in her and escalate slowly.

Don't tell her you want sex; show her. Always demonstrate what you want through actions, not words.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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MOTU said:
I agree with with all above. It's her anti slut defense. Get a few in her and escalate slowly.

Don't tell her you want sex; show her. Always demonstrate what you want through actions, not words.
Thats the trick..
 

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i think its better to just ignore and press on.
 

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Update:

I tried to escalte several times, including small Freezout after LMR, no chance, only KC...
I finally told her to leave.. (she couldtn believe I sayd that -> really? really? .-> Yes! Ciao!), I hold frame, she left.., im very curious if she will text me..
 

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Lion1985 said:
Update:

I tried to escalte several times, including small Freezout after LMR, no chance, only KC...
I finally told her to leave.. (she couldtn believe I sayd that -> really? really? .-> Yes! Ciao!), I hold frame, she left.., im very curious if she will text me..
good work man. Keep us updated on the sitch.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Mr Wright

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Lion1985 said:
Update:

I tried to escalte several times, including small Freezout after LMR, no chance, only KC...
I finally told her to leave.. (she couldtn believe I sayd that -> really? really? .-> Yes! Ciao!), I hold frame, she left.., im very curious if she will text me..
Even if she did, I wouldn't bother, she actually stuck by her word on that one so just leave it. Can't win 'em all.
 

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she isn't a plate when you're not fvcking her

no need to give her free booze if she isn't going to open her legs, opening her mouth for alcohol doesn't cut it, that makes you a chump who is being used.

you don't hold "any frame" when you aren't getting laid, she is denying you sex, you only hold your d!ck instead, that is holding no frame, she holds "the frame".

you sound like a troll as well man, just saying.
 

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Lion1985 said:
Update:

I tried to escalte several times, including small Freezout after LMR, no chance, only KC...
I finally told her to leave.. (she couldtn believe I sayd that -> really? really? .-> Yes! Ciao!), I hold frame, she left.., im very curious if she will text me..
She expected you to beg, but you didn't. But she's still in control and she is keeping you as a friend (beta orbiter). Don't hold your breath on her texting you. I'll wager $1000 that she doesn't.

If you aren't banging her, that's not a plate, that's being her girlfriend. Accept that you have failed here and move on.

Case closed.
 

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Well done for escorting her to the front door and not being a *****.
 
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